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i don't know, for every orr or mcdavid there's a alexander daigle or jason bonsignore. most #1 picks in basketball are at least all stars bordering on HOF'ers, while in hockey you have solid guys like ed jovanovski and roman hamrlik. solid nhl players but nowhere near the franchise changer.
i do agree mcdavid outselling crosby is a joke. i would think crosby's career would be in the 90th+ percentile of mcdavid's career projection. if mcdavid somehow surpasses even that he'll be a top 2-3 players in hockey history....then you're talking about gretzky orr lemieux howe. edit: i LOVE hockey, and hockey players, and hockey cards...but base on my experience you should not be investing in hockey cards!
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http://www.landofbasketball.com/draf...er_1_picks.htm
Seems to me a fair number of guys here who did not work out so well.
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The Daigle era was at a funny time in the NHL. They were trying to expand/popularize the game but unfortunately, this backfired on them. Remember the Manon Rheaume hype as well?
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Some unique circumstances perhaps, but Eric Lindros, the so-called (or was it self-appointed?) "Next One" didn't quite live up to hype either.
Was Manon Rheaume actually considered to have a chance or was it just a publicity stunt?
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It was Don Cherry who gave the best analysis of what happened to Lindros career.
He said that in juniors, Lindros got into the horrible habit of watching the puck onto his stick, but since he was so big when the other kids would line him up for a big hit they would just bounce off. Lindros was never able to break the habit. In the NHL, those guys don't bounce off. And Scott Stevens will kill you. |
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This is what people said in the past and look what ended up happening. There are a few sellers that I know who picked up vintage high-grade singles, complete sets, etc. and made a killing. Remember, the intelligent investor will NEVER follow the crowd!
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He missed how many games due to injury and still put up exceptional numbers? His downfall was his reputation and people jumping on him for that. Bobby Clarke was once asked his thoughts on Lindros, and he said, once you removed all the baggage, mostly from his Mother, who was referred to as the Bonster (her name was Bonnie) he was an incredible hockey player with elite skills. Personally, if you watch hockeyfights.com, namely, Lindros', you will see how often he was targeted and how often he had to drop them. Imagine having to be looking over your shoulder at all times, having to drop the gloves way more frequently than most players and still put up numbers like this: 865 points in 760 career games, from a relatively young kid, in yesterdays style of hockey, is nothing to snicker at. Scott Stevens, when asked about Lindros, hates talking about the hit that ended his career. Stevens got caught up in the hype, and also targeted Lindros and never missed an opportunity to hit him nor fight him. In retrospect, he feels bad and wished he had of minded his own business and just played the game without that mental distraction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH4AILBsMTw https://www.nhl.com/player/eric-lindros-8458515 https://www.thestar.com/sports/hocke...l-of-fame.html One might think I'm biased because I never missed a home game when Lindros played for the Oshawa Generals, but ask most in the hockey world who have watched him or played with or against him and they'll tell you the same thing. He was determined, talented and highly skilled and brought to the game something that had never been seen before. He could not only handle his own, he could put the puck in the net as well. https://www.nhl.com/news/eric-lindro...me/c-283567428 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHw0SHaRB1Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1CZSGZenbc
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I love talking racing cards. IMO, the top racing cards in the hobby are:
1. 1986 SportStar Photo-Graphic Dale Earnhardt 2. 1972 STP Fred Lorenzen with car (my avatar) 3. 1972 STP Bobby Allison 4. 1972 STP Richard Petty 5. Any of the Marhoefer Meats A.J. Foyt cards that were produced over a five-year period from 1961-1965 6. 1911 T36 Barney Oldfield 7. 1988 and 1989 MAXX Dale Earnhardt Some of those cards (like the Lorenzen with car card and Bobby Allison card from the STP set are extreme rarities). The MAXX Dale Earnhardt cards are a bit like '52 Topps Mickey Mantle in that they are very easy to find, but those two cards are the cards most commonly thought of when someone says "auto racing card." I am still trying to pick up an Earnhardt SportStar Photo-Graphics card; I have lost out at auction a couple times over the past 2-3 years. The '88 version of the Earnhardt MAXX card has a bit of a back story in that the card was not officially released in 1988 because MAXX could not come to an agreement with him. Some '88 Earnhardt cards were released without company consent and MAXX did then officially release 999 of the 1988 cards with a serial number several years later. Low grade and ungraded examples of the MAXX Earnhardt cards can be found fairly cheap on eBay. Lorenzen with car from the 1972 STP set is a legendary rarity to the point that racing collector Jon Hardgrove wrote on the net54 non-sports board that he saw just one example of the card in 26 years of collecting. I bought some STP cards from a lady in her 70s in Connecticut a couple years ago, and she invited me to call her up on the phone to talk about the set. The STP cards were originally a free handout at the 1972 Daytona 500 (and possibly at Talladega that year as well). For some reason, however, the Lorenzen with car card was not among those handed out at Daytona. The lady I talked with in Connecticut said it took her over 20 years of searching to find an example of the Lorenzen with car card, and that one had a pinhole in it. The STP cards are an 11-card set; some cards in the set are very easy to find, and some cards in the set are near impossible. Within the past year, two Lorenzen with car cards actually showed up on eBay and about half a dozen Richard Petty 1972 STP cards have appeared on eBay. I like collecting racing because there are only a small handful of cards that sell for over $500 individually. The Lorenzen with car card may be the only racing card that sells for over $1,000 at auction. The Petty card ftom the '72 STP set does show up several times a year, and can be had in the $150-200 range, unless the card is extremely high-grade. Quote:
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Here is a link to the vintage racing discussion on the main board. There is a ton of interesting discussion about the main racing sets and the major racing cards in the hobby in that thread.
http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=220356 |
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