Scarcity ratio of PIEDMONT 350 and EPDG BACKS FOR ELITE 11

[Luke]

Steve, can you explain what is different about a Conroy with a 150 back and a Conroy with a 350 back? I've tried looking at mine when I was doing a back run, and the only differences I could see was the 350 Series cards look more "washed out" which is pretty common.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Luke

Steve, can you explain what is different about a Conroy with a 150 back and a Conroy with a 350 back? I've tried looking at mine when I was doing a back run, and the only differences I could see was the 350 Series cards look more "washed out" which is pretty common.

Conroy fielding has either got stripes for the seams on the hat or not.

Scot Reader asked about it a few? couple? years ago, and the backs pretty much came down as 150 for one and 350 for the other. There was one supposed outlier, but looking at the scan on Ebay I didn't think it was.

Steve B

[Luke]

Ok, that's why mine didn't look any different. Both my Old Mill and SC 350/25 have stripes, although they are lighter. Both cards have the "washed out" or "faded" look to them. Maybe you guys just saw some washed out copies and the stripes weren't noticeable? Or maybe the stripes are more prominent on with some backs than others.

Can't get my Old Mill to upload for some reason, but here is the SC 350/25:

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Luke

Ok, that's why mine didn't look any different. Both my Old Mill and SC 350/25 have stripes, although they are lighter. Both cards have the "washed out" or "faded" look to them. Maybe you guys just saw some washed out copies and the stripes weren't noticeable? Or maybe the stripes are more prominent on with some backs than others.

Can't get my Old Mill to upload for some reason, but here is the SC 350/25:

Interesting, we'll have to revisit those in more detail.

The lines are very clear on 150's.

I just checked mine, and it's also an SC 350/25 and has no lines. Even under 40X there's no trace of them.
In looking at cards on Ebay, there was one decent scan of a 150 with them, and it didn't seem to have any gray shading on the cap, which mine has.

I'll get a pic of the area, and put it up.

On the plus side, we may learn a bit about the progression, Stronger lines, lighter, maybe from plate wear, then no lines. The gray/no gray would be a change too. And some subset of those cards I think will prove to be a lot less common.
On the down side, this probably eliminates the one clear same subject cutoff between 150 and 350, which complicates things.
Ah well, the monster continues to surprise and confound even where you think you've cornered it.

Steve B

[steve B]

Here's the one I have.



And the closeup.



Compared to this 150, there are a lot of smaller differences, like the ear being shaded differently.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...oAAOSwIjJZVbIw

Steve B

[Pat R]

Steve,
Here are a couple of 350's A Piedmont and a SC350/30 with pretty strong
lines.

Conroy PD350.jpg

Conroy SC350-30.jpg

[steve B]

Am I seeing the details right? The Piedmont has the gray shading but the SC doesn't? It looks like the Piedmont also has the shading that divides the arm from the green field and the shaded ear while the SC is more like mine.


Obviously that clear 150/350 divide isn't clear at all.

And you know you guys are making me buy a bunch of Conroys just to look for differences?

Steve B