Opinions on the "GOAT" (Boxing)

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

The Italian is 86 and the UK is 87. I figured it out when I read the back of a U.K. and it talked about a tennis tournament from 87. Getting my haircut and will update further later. Think it was Australian open. It also has a 87 copyright on the album.

The UK version is from 1987? O H M Y G O D ! ! ! Think of all the "rookie investors" who spent thousands of dollars on the PSA 10 UK version. Now that we know it's a second-year card, it's obviously worth way less. These guys lost lots of money due to PSA's error. I do own one UK version, and it's a PSA 8, but I didn't spend too much on it - thank God I didn't go after the 9s and 10s! PSA incorrectly labeled mine as the Italian version and put the year down as 1985 - that's TWO errors on one label! They really have no clue what they're doing, do they?

So Does Tyson have 3 second-year Panini cards?

- UK Foil (#109)
- UK Supersport (#153)
- Italian Supersport (#160)

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

The UK version is from 1987? O H M Y G O D ! ! ! Think of all the "rookie investors" who spent thousands of dollars on the PSA 10 UK version. Now that we know it's a second-year card, it's obviously worth way less. These guys lost lots of money due to PSA's error. I do own one UK version, and it's a PSA 8, but I didn't spend too much on it - thank God I didn't go after the 9s and 10s! PSA incorrectly labeled mine as the Italian version and put the year down as 1985 - that's TWO errors on one label! They really have no clue what they're doing, do they?

So Does Tyson have 3 second-year Panini cards?

- UK Foil (#109)
- UK Supersport (#153)
- Italian Supersport (#160)

I have no clue how many 10's there really are. The combined pop reports show 11 but I know for fact there are one or two UK copies labeled Italian and of those 5 are UK currently.

Here are the first two I got graded. I wrote in 1986 but they labeled them 1985.


1 1 18761404 MINT 9 1985 Panini Supersport Italian 153 Mike Tyson Card
1 2 18761405 MINT 9 1985 Panini Supersport Italian 153 Mike Tyson Card


I just checked and they are back in the 1985 population report!


Here is the next wave. They too are back in the 1985 population totals.


11 1 18632577 MINT 9 1985 Panini Supersport Italian 153 Mike Tyson Card
12 1 18632578 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Panini Supersport Italian 153 Mike Tyson Card
13 1 18632579 MINT 9 1985 Panini Supersport Italian 153 Mike Tyson Card


Okay this is really odd. Now these that were graded as 86 show 85 for Italian and it shows the UK as 1987. All slabbed 1986.

9 1 19707443 MINT 9 1985 Panini Supersport Italian 153 Mike Tyson Card
9 2 19707444 NEAR MINT 7 1985 Panini Supersport Italian 153 Mike Tyson Card
9 3 19707445 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Panini Supersport Italian 153 Mike Tyson Card
10 1 19707447 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Panini Supersport UK 153 Mike Tyson Card



Yes whomever purchased the UK PSA 10's did buy a second year card. With it being the same image it will remain popular but defiantly not the rookie.


These are the following Panini Tyson's in order.

1986 Panini Italian #153

1987 Foil UK #109

1987 Panini UK #153

1988 Panini #160 Bianchi Back (most common) Supersport Back and Gritti Back.


I am even more confused at this point about the actual population totals than ever before.


My PSA 10 shows in the 1986 Totals.


https://www.psacard.com/cert/21309877/

[samosa4u]

David,

Don't even bother trying to figure out the population for these cards or you're going to make your head explode! PSA has gotten everything mixed up. The only way they can really fix this mess is if everyone sends theirs back to them. They would then have to 1) fix the labels and 2) fix their online population report. It'll be a big job. Anyways, I'm going to send mine back so they can fix the label, or should I just leave it the way it is?

[Dpeck100]

I see you live in Canada. That could get expensive shipping it there and back if PSA doesn't cover the cost.

Personally I am not a fan of sending my graded cards off and that is why I haven't ever done any formal reviews but many people do it. If you decide to go that route I think I would contact PSA and see if they will cover the cost.

I was thrilled when I was able to uncover that the image is from his interview at the 11:09 mark of his fight with Sammy Scaff from December 6th 1985.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvPByKY8w6s&t=681s

My main focus is wrestling and the 1986 WWF OPC Series II is labeled 1985 and it is a set based around Wrestlemania II which took place April 7th 1986. A lot of the sets that had limited information and collectors interested have some labeling errors that is for sure.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

You guys are pissing into the wind. The boxing pop report is chock full of gross errors that will never be fixed. There's a 1942 set they have listed as 1935 that has Joe Louis in it so people have been buying it since day 1 thinking they're getting a Joe Louis rookie. Not to mention that the Louis card is at least double-printed, possibly reprinted, that accounts for the vast majority of Louis examples out there.

Arthur

[Exhibitman]

Or this:



The mfg is Crack. The set is Sport. The word "figuritas" means large cards. They have it right in 1965 with "Crack Golazo Figuritas".

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

The '67 set Crack Campeon. The album says Figuritas Sport the same way we'd have an album that says sports cards. Most of the albums from that era have those generic titles on them in some way, shape or form. Which also helps screw everything up when someone provides one to PSA and says "here, see? the name of the set is Figuritas Sport."