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Old 03-14-2018, 05:33 PM
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And to think I paid $10 for it

Found in Broadway Ricks Auction circa 2000 for provenance.

For the record, I think the ebay card was real as well.

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Old 03-14-2018, 08:12 PM
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For the record, I think the ebay card was real as well.
This card really is becoming like the Blue Old Mill.

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Old 03-15-2018, 06:56 AM
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To clarify, I paid $10 for the one Jamie has, I bought a lot of 180 T206's in a Broadway Rick SCD Auction about 20 years ago. Had the Cobb BL 460, Chase Trophy Brown Lenox and a few others among the group. $1,800 for the 180 cards, that was the opening and only bid. There was only a small description with no photos. I call Rick Kohl and all he could say was what a fantastic deal it was, the entire time I was trying to ask pertinent questions. So, I just placed the opening bid and let it ride.

Apparently based on that, very few people here would of believed it real, but it was.

I had 4-5 other BL 460's and eventually traded the card to Art, who bugged me for years to get it.

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Old 03-15-2018, 10:26 AM
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Blue Old Mill. Show of hands from guys with opinions who actually held and looked at the card....

Anyway I have yet to meet anyone that held that card raw and drew the conclusion it was fake. I would love to proven wrong about that card though!
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Old 03-15-2018, 10:29 AM
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Blue Old Mill. Show of hands from guys with opinions who actually held and looked at the card....

Anyway I have yet to meet anyone that held that card raw and drew the conclusion it was fake. I would love to proven wrong about that card though!
I saw it. It did not appear altered to me.
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Please observe my thoughts on the card in the attached image below:

1. Center: creasing on the front seems to be intentional/recent, indicating artificial aging.
2. Top left: creasing on top left seems enunciated on the front but is hardly visible on the back. Possible discrepancy due to lighting and photos.
3. Top right; indentation seems to be significantly larger on the front than the back.
4. Bottom left; spider creasing seems significant on the back for the major crease and completely absent for the two minor creases; again, possible discrepancy due to lighting and photos.
5. Arrows on reverse: a streak of yellow would likely indicate shading issues/sunlight exposure/highlighter or pen markings. No such residual evidence is found on the front as the coloring/tinting seems to be excellent.

These are things that would cause me to stay away if the card was ungraded by a professional. Not all of these observations would immediately disqualify the card for me, but without holding it in hand, raw or graded, I would not buy it.

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Old 03-15-2018, 11:46 AM
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I also handled the Blue Old Mill and based on a fairly good examination, also felt it was probably good.
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Old 03-15-2018, 10:28 AM
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[QUOTE

I had 4-5 other BL 460's and eventually traded the card to Art, who bugged me for years to get it.[/QUOTE]

So bugging you for years, is all it takes. I thought one night of drinking in the Hotel bar could work to!
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I had 4-5 other BL 460's and eventually traded the card to Art, who bugged me for years to get it.
So bugging you for years, is all it takes. I thought one night of drinking in the Hotel bar could work to![/QUOTE]

Reminds me of one of my favorite movies, Glenngary Glennross. "Don`t open your mouth until you know the shot".
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:56 PM
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Default T206 Ty Cobb Broad Leaf 460

I will always be grateful to Scott for selling me the Cobb with BL460 back.

Unfortunately had to sell that one for financial reasons around the year 2001 and still regret that decision every day.
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Hi Art, nice to hear from you. I'm curious if you have an opinion on this second Cobb/ BL460?
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I’ve been collecting T206 for 25 years...I held the blue old mill at the Baltimore Nat’l, so did Wonka...We both felt it was real...he in fact, made a substantial offer on the card that was declined...it then went to auction.

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Ok.. someone (who would like to remain anonymous) have inspected the card in person and failed the test. We can all put this subject RIP. Cheer.

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I’ve been collecting T206 for 25 years...I held the blue old mill at the Baltimore Nat’l, so did Wonka...We both felt it was real...he in fact, made a substantial offer on the card that was declined...it then went to auction.
I remember hearing 38K or something on those lines from Wonka. If I remember correctly that was when the card had not made it to SGC's table yet to be slabbed. Then when it came back the seller decided to let the market determine the value.
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Does anyone here, ever had any of their baseball cards in their attic in the last 10 years...
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