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More like a California whine
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Paul Masson's commercials were better -- no wine before its time, pitched by Orson Welles.
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Some of you guys get carried away with this relatively new "WAR" factor in the ranking of BB players. I think can be misleading.
Old time statistics are absolute numbers....while this WAR stat can be "played" with. And, I understand that it's calculation has recently been modified. Furthermore, it does not really provide us the complete picture of a given BB player since it does not take into account that player's World Series stats. Any factor that does not include World Series performance (in my opinion) is absolutely meaningless in any discussions regarding the ranking of Base- ball players. Yes, Mantle has an advantage because he played in 65 - W. S. games. But, that is so because his superior play during the regular season greatly contributed to his team getting into the World Series. Therefore, if we take into consideration World Series numbers, then Ruth, Mantle, and Gehrig are the top three guys. Mantle leads this trio with 18 HR's....59 Hits....42 Runs....40 RBI's TED Z T206 Reference . Last edited by tedzan; 07-19-2018 at 08:48 PM. Reason: Correct typo. |
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So Ted, do I correctly understand that a really good player who never made it to the World Series because he played his entire career for mostly lousy teams, someone like George Sisler for example, wouldn't get any or much consideration from you?
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Ted Williams only played in one and he was subpar.
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I did NOT say that, Val. You know me better than that. What I am saying is that if a ballplayer played in the World Series, then that data should be factored into the equation that yields this "WAR" stat. Baseball is a team game (as we all know), and I have been fortunate to have had some interesting conversations with Don Larsen, Ted Williams, Phil Rizzuto, Frank Howard, Clete Boyer, and a few more BB players. All which told me that Mantle's performance on the field (despite his injuries) during the 1950's thru the 1960's inspired his teammates to play the game at their best. This is an intangible measure of a BB player, which is overlooked by these academics who come up with neo-systems to rank BB ballplayers. And, the results some times are not a true measure of a given ballplayer. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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