Recent Soccer Pickups

[Copa7]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Low $$ impulse buy on ebay. Expected a better grade out of SGC though.

Nice card. Legend.

From my recent vacation in Italy I picked up a few 2019 soccer packs at a Giornali in Formia, a Panini Magazine with 2 packs and limited edition cards at Tabacchi Shop also in Formia at a super market called Panorama I picked up the Italian Kelloggs Coco Pops for the soccer stickers

[aljurgela]

Hope that you enjoy these as much as I do...

For those of you who do not know who Ernst Willimowski is, he is reported to have scored more than a 1,000 goals and remains (from what I am told) a hard figure to deal with in Poland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Wilimowski


Planicka was the greates Czech goalkeepers and is regarded as one of the greatest goalkeepers of his generation, and of all time, in 1999, the IFFHS elected him the best Czech goalkeeper – as well as the sixth best in Europe and the ninth best overall – of the twentieth century. In 2003, he was catalogued as the greatest goalkeeper of an era that included other notable keepers such as Ricardo Zamora and Gianpiero Combi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franti...3%A1ni%C4%8Dka

[Peter_Spaeth]

What a great looking Di Stefano. I have sought thee, sung thee, dreamed thee.

[aljurgela]

I really love that Di Stefano... I also love some of the prizes that are offered on the back.... perhaps my favorite is the "iron" that you can get... sounds good chocolate and an iron.

Al

[Exhibitman]

Interesting info on Willimowski. Led me to this table of 500 goal scorers, which would be a fun collection, sort of a 500 HR club:


Josef Bican
Romário
Pelé
Ferenc Puskás
Gerd Müller
Cristiano Ronaldo
Lionel Messi
Ferenc Deák
Uwe Seeler
Túlio Maravilha
Arthur Friedenreich
Ernst Willimowski
Eusébio
Jimmy McGrory
Franz Binder
Fernando Peyroteo
Hugo Sánchez
Fritz Walter
József Takács
Gyula Zsengellér
Zico
Alfredo Di Stéfano
Hans Krankl
Gunnar Nordahl
Roberto Dinamite
Jimmy Greaves
Zlatan Ibrahimović
Ferenc Bene

[Collect Equity]

That is a really cool Di Stefano!!

I love the near-unknown vintage cards. Especially when they have great backs like that one.

[Peter_Spaeth]

A couple of 60s cards adding to my modest group of greats of the sport.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Also, some RCs of modern goalie greats.

[Copa7]

Great additions. That first Schmichel is nice. Also really dig the Greiling Planika. (although I'm a sucker for pre-war goalies)

The 500 list is interesting as it could almost be split into thirds... Pre -war, post war and modern.

[Copa7]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Interesting info on Willimowski. Led me to this table of 500 goal scorers, which would be a fun collection, sort of a 500 HR club:


Josef Bican
Romário
Pelé
Ferenc Puskás
Gerd Müller
Cristiano Ronaldo
Lionel Messi
Ferenc Deák
Uwe Seeler
Túlio Maravilha
Arthur Friedenreich
Ernst Willimowski
Eusébio
Jimmy McGrory
Franz Binder
Fernando Peyroteo
Hugo Sánchez
Fritz Walter
József Takács
Gyula Zsengellér
Zico
Alfredo Di Stéfano
Hans Krankl
Gunnar Nordahl
Roberto Dinamite
Jimmy Greaves
Zlatan Ibrahimović
Ferenc Bene

I have not been able to obtain cards from two from this list. Maybe they exist, I've just not seen them.

[Copa7]

Picked up two for my Rangers collection

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[aljurgela]

Originally Posted by Copa7

I have not been able to obtain cards from two from this list. Maybe they exist, I've just not seen them.

May I add two rather obscure names?

Adolf Jager... said to have scored more than 2,000 in Amateur German competitions and played in the Olympics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_J%C3%A4ger

Mosa Marjanovic - easily surpased 500 and I believe was the leading goal scorer at the international level for Yugoslavia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blagoje_Marjanovi%C4%87

I will see if I can post some a card of these two guys at some point this week.

[aljurgela]

Originally Posted by aljurgela

May I add two rather obscure names?

Adolf Jager... said to have scored more than 2,000 in Amateur German competitions and played in the Olympics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_J%C3%A4ger

Mosa Marjanovic - easily surpased 500 and I believe was the leading goal scorer at the international level for Yugoslavia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blagoje_Marjanovi%C4%87

I will see if I can post some a card of these two guys at some point this week.

What do you think?

[Copa7]

The Casanova series is another that span over several years so the issues are always under debate.

As for the SCG card, it's sort of stupid to generically label as an unknown Yugoslavian issue and then stamping it authentic on the same slab. They should just admit they don't know.

Both are excellent additions to your collection. Well done.

[aljurgela]

Originally Posted by Copa7

The Casanova series is another that span over several years so the issues are always under debate.

As for the SCG card, it's sort of stupid to generically label as an unknown Yugoslavian issue and then stamping it authentic on the same slab. They should just admit they don't know.

Both are excellent additions to your collection. Well done.

Yes, It is a bit of a question and maybe there were other years. Since Jager's final year was 1927, 1926 would not be too far off. I have some boxing cards and they are equally amazing. I just love this issue.

I think that the Yugoslavian issue thing is fine. I have spent years looking for data on the albums of war torn former Yugoslavia without much success but frequently it is possible to tie down a year based on other cards on an issue, so if you know the year and you know the country, I am fine with "Yugoslavian Issue"... does not bother me at all.

[Ulidia]

Originally Posted by aljurgela

Had been looking for this one for quite some time... It is not his rookie, but it is just beautiful... The Stagni Pettazzoni Meazza...

Meazza is probably the greatest Italian footballer of all-time; at least in terms of his impact on the game.


You almost certainly know but, in case not, the stadium colloquially known as the San Siro (where both Milano clubs, Internazionale and AC Milan, play) is officially known as the Giuseppe Meazza Stadium - in was names in his honour in 1980, a year after his death.


In practice, Inter fans tend to call the stadium by its official name as Meazza is a genuine legend of the club. However, AC Milan fans typically still call it the San Siro, and even the AC Milan club hierarchy tend to do this also. Whilst he did spend some time playing for AC Milan, it was at the very tail-end of his career and he is inevitably much more strongly associated with Inter than their city rivals.

[Collect Equity]

Originally Posted by Copa7

I have not been able to obtain cards from two from this list. Maybe they exist, I've just not seen them.

When you say you haven't been able to obtain two cards of players on the list, is it because you have been outbid, you have never seen them for sale, or they don't exist.

I would love to see a list of earliest known card(s) for this list of players. It might make a worthwhile thread of its own. Anyone have the start of the list that they want to put forward?

[aljurgela]

With their earliest cards... Will try and do that today.

Al

[Copa7]

If any one has cards of Artur Freidenriech or Fernando Peyroteo, I'd like to see them.

I know Peyroteo is on a modern postage stamp.

[Copa7]

Added another Dino Zoff to my keeper collection. A vital player in Italy's 1968 European Nations Championship.

Meanwhile, the NASL all-time goal scorer - Giorgio Chinaglia before joining the New York Cosmos (two versions, including the Valida)

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[esehombre]

Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.

[aljurgela]

Originally Posted by esehombre

Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.

Love this one Noel! Great Find.... I would probably ask Paul. Not sure on the dates, but I do believe that I have seen a different version.

[esehombre]

Thanks for the response Al and good call. I will update if/when i get a response from Paul.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by esehombre

Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.

OK, based on the back I'd say it's from around 1905 but BUT it could be a 1912 card. he was at Derby for two spells, before 1907 and after 1910. The North Parade address is the middle era address for Baines. It is not from the 1890s, that's clear, by the back, so I'd bet on 1905, or a couple of years earlier. So, it's not the rookie for Bloomer but it is probably one of the rarest cards of Bloomer, much rarer than his earlier cigarette cards.

- Carl (www.rarecards.co.uk)

[Collect Equity]

Originally Posted by esehombre

Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.

By the time I saw this it was already outside my budget. Nice pick up!!!

[esehombre]

Thanks for the help and kind words--I did hear back from Paul and as expected I dont think there is anything new here. And thanks Samosa I think there is a way to ballpark these with the right research and agreed it is likely early 1900's (1902-1905).

"Unfortunately there is no real way to date Baines shields. No real records were kept and they were issued in such huge numbers (though very few survived). The only way to try and give them a date would be to try and find a similar card featuring different players and hope to pinpoint a date linked to the clubs they played for at that time."

[thelimey]

Originally Posted by Copa7

If any one has cards of Artur Freidenriech or Fernando Peyroteo, I'd like to see them.

I know Peyroteo is on a modern postage stamp.

I've been picking up some of the "Ausland" Konig Fussball cards recently. One of which is Peyroteo but his name has been butchered into Peirotea on the card. The picture is from his international debut on 24/4/38, a 1-1 draw with Germany in an exhibition match in Frankfurt.

[Collect Equity]

Originally Posted by thelimey

I've been picking up some of the "Ausland" Konig Fussball cards recently. One of which is Peyroteo but his name has been butchered into Peirotea on the card. The picture is from his international debut on 24/4/38, a 1-1 draw with Germany in an exhibition match in Frankfurt.

That is really cool. I absolutely love this set! The colors are amazing and the history of it being released in Germany just before WWII is fascinating.

I have been working for a few years on a complete run of all backs for the Nasazzi, Dixie Dean, and Zamora cards from this set. There were 5 known back variations when I started the project. In July, there was the latest update on back variations and now there are at least 15 different back variations, meaning that I am very, very far behind in my collecting journey on this project:
https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogsp...-fussball.html

The day I read about all of the new-found back variations, I didn't know whether to shout with joy because it means I will have years of journey ahead of me or to cry because it means I have years of journey that will likely never be complete ahead of me


Anyway, cool set and great cards! And if anyone is selling/trading any Nasazzi, Dean, or Zamora cards from this set, let me know what backs they are and I might just be interested.

[Copa7]

Unfortunately, I do not believe this is a card of Poyetea in the 1938 Konig set.
It appears to be Carlos Pereira (FC Porto).

The search continues.... https://bibo-porto-carago.blogspot.c...ta-do.html?m=1

[thelimey]

Originally Posted by Copa7

Unfortunately, I do not believe this is a card of Poyetea in the 1938 Konig set.
It appears to be Carlos Pereira (FC Porto).

The search continues.... https://bibo-porto-carago.blogspot.c...ta-do.html?m=1

For what it's worth this is the back of the card, my broken German & google translate have the back as "In addition to Santos in Peirotea Portugal has a powerful and spirited centre forward. The scene from the 1:1 game on 24.4.38 shows a duel with Goldbrunner."

Looking at the picture you might be right, it might be an error and they have used a picture of Pereira (who according to the lineups also played). However it is a bit tricky as they both have the bushy eyebrows and in his younger pictures (he would have been 20 ish at the time) Peyrotea doesn't have his hair slicked back and looks very similar to Pereira eg some of the ones further down on this page and in the embedded videos https://www.forumscp.com/wiki/index....nando_Peyroteo

[Copa7]

Both Santo and Perrier are midfielders (mittelstrumer). Poyetea was a stocky heavy set striker. It iss definitely not him on the card.

This is Pereria

[thelimey]

Mittelsturmer is the German term for centre-forward not midfielder. I've found some more pictures from the game in question here https://impromptuinc.wordpress.com/2...tugal-1-1-0-1/. I've attached a close up of the third picture which appears to show a young Peyrotea, remember he was only 20 at the time and hadn't bulked out yet. To me that looks like the same player on the card, more so than all the pictures of Peirera I can find. I am starting to lean back towards it actually being Peyrotea on the card front.

Talking of picture mix-ups I also happened to pick up a "Monelli" Baggio rookie. I know he appears on an earlier Vicenza squad sticker but I'm never too sure what to make of those. I think Bergkamp & Henry are the same but it feels a bit like cheating to claim them as rookies.

[Copa7]

I would like nothing more than this card to actually be the rookie card of this Portuguese player. (I own two of these cards)

And if the misspelled names of the Scottish players in the set are any indication, it can rightly be just that.

But I'd really rather be certain .... Let's keep looking.

[searching]

Hello all, 2 Robert Sinclair Footballers I recently picked up, all I know about them is that they are from 1899.

[Ulidia]

Hi

Not a card or paper item but thought some soccer fans might like to see my most recent purchase.

It is an Irish Cup Winner’s Medal from 1882.

The Irish Football Association was founded in 1880. It is the fourth oldest national football association in the world. Its national cup competition was first played in 1881.

The significance of this medal relates to its age - it was awarded to one of the Queens Island players who won the Cup in 1882, defeating Cliftonville in the final. It was only the second year of the cup's existence. I assume some medals of the 1881 final may still exist but there cannot be many older Irish Football Association medals than this one.

Queens Island were a team formed of Scottish workers in the shipyards (where Belfast manufactured the ill-fated Titanic that sunk 3 decades later) and exited football in the same decade, albeit another team of the same name had success in the 1920s.

It is 15ct gold which is a soft quality of metal, accounting for its somewhat worn appearance. It is also significant insofar as it shows an early example of IRish Football Association insignia - which, broadly, has remained constant over almost 140 years. I, for one, love the Celtic Cross design.

[Copa7]

Originally Posted by searching

Hello all, 2 Robert Sinclair Footballers I recently picked up, all I know about them is that they are from 1899.

These are spectacular.

Matt Kingsley - GK with one England cap (1901)

Willie Wardrobe - Scottish born forward.

Great pick ups.

[Copa7]

Originally Posted by Ulidia

Hi

Not a card or paper item but thought some soccer fans might like to see my most recent purchase.

It is an Irish Cup Winner’s Medal from 1882.

The Irish Football Association was founded in 1880. It is the fourth oldest national football association in the world. Its national cup competition was first played in 1881.

The significance of this medal relates to its age - it was awarded to one of the Queens Island players who won the Cup in 1882, defeating Cliftonville in the final. It was only the second year of the cup's existence. I assume some medals of the 1881 final may still exist but there cannot be many older Irish Football Association medals than this one.

Queens Island were a team formed of Scottish workers in the shipyards (where Belfast manufactured the ill-fated Titanic that sunk 3 decades later) and exited football in the same decade, albeit another team of the same name had success in the 1920s.

It is 15ct gold which is a soft quality of metal, accounting for its somewhat worn appearance. It is also significant insofar as it shows an early example of IRish Football Association insignia - which, broadly, has remained constant over almost 140 years. I, for one, love the Celtic Cross design.

This is truly a museum piece. This gives insight that may be missing from any archive or need account. Thanks for sharing.

[edjs]

I posted this in the postcard thread on the main board, but thought I might get a little more feedback posting it here. I believe it to be from 1906 or 1907, based on dates that some of these players were on Sunderland. I found many of the players, but some I can't find anywhere. The players I could find are Tommy Tait, Billy Hogg, Angus McIntosh, Jimmy Gemmell, James Watson, English McConnell, and Arthur Bridgett. Anyone know anything about the others?

[Copa7]

Hi

Three of these players were Scottish born - Matthew Hall, Joe McGhie, and goalkeeper, Bob Ward.

The remainder were Thomas Dawkins and Ernie Rhodes. Rhodes only played a part of the 1907 season which should narrow the date of the photo.

A very nice find, by the way!

[edjs]

Originally Posted by Copa7

Hi

Three of these players were Scottish born - Matthew Hall, Joe McGhie, and goalkeeper, Bob Ward.

The remainder were Thomas Dawkins and Ernie Rhodes. Rhodes only played a part of the 1907 season which should narrow the date of the photo.

A very nice find, by the way!

Thank you so much for the additional information, I really appreciate it.

Not a recent pickup but got this Roberto Baggio from one of the two Merlin soccer packs I bought in 1992 while in Formia, Italy visiting relatives

[Copa7]

I always liked those Merlin sets. There were ones made for Dutch league and England /Scotland with same year/design.

It would be awesome to see the 4 big Euro league's produce uniform sets (Germany, England, Italy and Spain)

[Copa7]

Adding to my Gordon Banks collection.

[IMG][IMG-20190212-101055.jpg](https://postimg.cc/LqS4HdBf)[/IMG]

[esehombre]

This is the earliest image of Cruyff that i am aware of--if anyone knows differently please share. Not exactly a card so not sure where this would stack up in the rookie debate but it is one cool item.

[aljurgela]

Originally Posted by esehombre

This is the earliest image of Cruyff that i am aware of--if anyone knows differently please share. Not exactly a card so not sure where this would stack up in the rookie debate but it is one cool item.

and they are pretty hard to find.... congrats!

[esehombre]

Originally Posted by aljurgela

and they are pretty hard to find.... congrats!

Yes indeed, I have been collecting Cruyff for many years and this was the first time i had seen one. One of the cooler collectibles I own

[Exhibitman]

My whole family got up early Sunday morning to watch the World Cup final. I picked up this Rapinoe Panini sticker earlier last week:



I love it when an athlete emerges as the undisputed finest in the world; undisputed champion, etc. Rapinoe won the Golden Shoe and the Golden Ball, so she is indisputably the best woman 'footballer' in the world. Happy to add her to my modest collection.

[Anish]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

My whole family got up early Sunday morning to watch the World Cup final. I picked up this Rapinoe Panini sticker earlier last week:



I love it when an athlete emerges as the undisputed finest in the world; undisputed champion, etc. Rapinoe won the Golden Shoe and the Golden Ball, so she is indisputably the best woman 'footballer' in the world. Happy to add her to my modest collection.

The Ballon D’Or Winner (who protested the WC) might dispute that

[aljurgela]

Originally Posted by Copa7

If any one has cards of Artur Freidenriech or Fernando Peyroteo, I'd like to see them.

I know Peyroteo is on a modern postage stamp.

Arthur Freidenriech Dolar card