Babe Ruth Donruss Cut Signature, authentic?

egbeachley · #1 12-28-2018, 01:55 PM

It�s a CUT-out autograph. That�s like a trimmed card. Stay away from cuts.

Throttlesteer · #2 12-28-2018, 02:53 PM

I hope the previous responses dont seem too negative. The price is ridiculously high and folks dint want to see you get burned. Honestly, the signature looks to be good, but I'm not an expert by any means.

I would keep looking for one in the $4-5k range. There's nothing wrong with cut signatures, if you like them.

Assuming positive intent, but I hope this isnt your auto and you're trying to drive traffic.

slidekellyslide · #3 12-28-2018, 04:16 PM

It�s also shipping from Taiwan?? Like others have said, there are far better deals out there and probably safer ones too.

Exhibitman · #4 12-28-2018, 06:06 PM

I am very leery of any high end modern American cards coming from China, Taiwan, etc., especially in slabs. What plausible explanation is there for the card ending up in Taiwan in a slab? There are too many stories of third shift counterfeiting from the factories that fabricate so many other products. I would be very concerned that this is a counterfeit item in a slab that slipped out the back door of the factory. Also, fake coins from China are a big news story this year:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinas-...ke-gold-coins/

IMO it is only a matter of time before we start seeing fake modern cards in fake slabs.

swarmee · #5 12-28-2018, 06:27 PM

There are a lot of big money card collectors in southeast Asia. You may be surprised just how many investors/collectors there are there. Yes, there are some counterfeiters, but this is a 1/1. Normally counterfeiters make things they can sell a bunch of copies of.

pokerplyr80 · #6 12-28-2018, 09:10 PM

Beckett is about as popular as psa for modern cards. I would not be too worried about the authenticity of the piece.

Since you posted this in the prewar section of the board most responses will be from people who don't know the value modern collectors place on these cut auto cards. I have no idea either. My personal preference if I were spending 10k or more on a Ruth auto would be a decent ball, either a single or a dual with Gehrig. But if you think it's worth the price go for it.

Orioles1954 · #7 12-28-2018, 10:18 PM

There is huge card $$$ in Taiwan. Topps and Panini are increasing their marketing efforts to that side of the world. I've done multiple transactions out that way with no problems.

Topnotchsy · #8 12-30-2018, 07:40 PM

Couple of points:

1) To all those commenting about the price of a Ruth autograph and the like and those making fun of the idea that the autograph was cut from another document... please. Take a look in the mirror. This is a hobby where we collect pieces of paper and pay (at times) many thousands of dollars for them. This is a card from a pretty popular set, it's a 1/1 and it includes a Ruth autograph. There is a large market for cards with cut autographs among people who do not collect other signed items. It may not be your thing, and that's cool, but don't mock it or assume your collectibles are better.

2) To the comment about the card coming from Taiwan, as others have mentioned, there is huge money in cards and collectibles (particularly modern cards and ever more so basketball cards) so assuming the seller has decent feedback, that is definitely not a strike against the card.

3) As others have mentioned, there have been a few cut autographs in cards over the years that were found to be forged. I do believe for the most part the card companies relied on solid 3rd party authentication companies (PSA/DNA, JSA) but that may not have been the case in every instance, so it is definitely worth getting opinions. The auto board here is a good spot.

4) To those telling the OP to slow down... just because he/she is new here, does not mean that they are not well versed and educated. Who knows how long they've been collecting and how much they know.

Snapolit1 · #9 12-30-2018, 09:36 PM

With all due respect, it’s pretty clear from the OP that he doesn’t know much about this at all. I thought that was pretty evident. I thought the comments here were not rude or heavy handed at all. Trying to be helpful.

And I also highly doubt the market for these cards is large- whatever that means. I have seen literally dozens of signed Gehrig and Ruth cards linger on eBay for years at outrageous prices. More than pristine single autographed balls sell for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

Couple of points:

1) To all those commenting about the price of a Ruth autograph and the like and those making fun of the idea that the autograph was cut from another document... please. Take a look in the mirror. This is a hobby where we collect pieces of paper and pay (at times) many thousands of dollars for them. This is a card from a pretty popular set, it's a 1/1 and it includes a Ruth autograph. There is a large market for cards with cut autographs among people who do not collect other signed items. It may not be your thing, and that's cool, but don't mock it or assume your collectibles are better.

2) To the comment about the card coming from Taiwan, as others have mentioned, there is huge money in cards and collectibles (particularly modern cards and ever more so basketball cards) so assuming the seller has decent feedback, that is definitely not a strike against the card.

3) As others have mentioned, there have been a few cut autographs in cards over the years that were found to be forged. I do believe for the most part the card companies relied on solid 3rd party authentication companies (PSA/DNA, JSA) but that may not have been the case in every instance, so it is definitely worth getting opinions. The auto board here is a good spot.

4) To those telling the OP to slow down... just because he/she is new here, does not mean that they are not well versed and educated. Who knows how long they've been collecting and how much they know.

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