365 Days of Roberto Clemente

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by docpatlv

Thought I might make a run, but didn’t think it would go that high.

I sold one a couple of years ago for ~4k! Thankfully have 1 in my collection - or I'd have owned it myself - I thought someone "stole" it.

[Empty77]

Originally Posted by hcv123

I sold one a couple of years ago for ~4k! Thankfully have 1 in my collection - or I'd have owned it myself - I thought someone "stole" it.

Hey Howard,

I won the Test Disk. I'm not sure I would have stayed in for much more though, but I thought I had seen one listed on ebay as BIN for a lot more a while back and then it was gone. Was that yours or someone else? (The one I remember I'm pretty sure was already PSA-ed, so perhaps that would result in a premium.)

Also, what else can you tell us about them? There is at least one that is not "progressive"? If so I'd rather have that, but for now this will do. Are the other progressives out there different colors so there is only one of each primary color, or is it not really known how many of each are out there?

And if I want this slabbed I could send it in as is and let PSA handle it? I was a little unsure based on how it was described as being mounted on cardboard backing, as far as whether that was now permanent, or just how Topps was adding a passive backing just to stabilize it?

(and no comments necessary from the gallery about having spent that much $ on something I didn't fully understand at the time, as I am already quite well aware of what I've done!--but when starting to run out of things to buy and having the monthly budget start to stack up, it makes me antsy to spend it on something, even if it's something outside my more comfortable knowledge base...)

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by Empty77

Hey Howard,

I won the Test Disk. I'm not sure I would have stayed in for much more though, but I thought I had seen one listed on ebay as BIN for a lot more a while back and then it was gone. Was that yours or someone else? (The one I remember I'm pretty sure was already PSA-ed, so perhaps that would result in a premium.)

Also, what else can you tell us about them? There is at least one that is not "progressive"? If so I'd rather have that, but for now this will do. Are the other progressives out there different colors so there is only one of each primary color, or is it not really known how many of each are out there?

And if I want this slabbed I could send it in as is and let PSA handle it? I was a little unsure based on how it was described as being mounted on cardboard backing, as far as whether that was now permanent, or just how Topps was adding a passive backing just to stabilize it?

(and no comments necessary from the gallery about having spent that much $ on something I didn't fully understand at the time, as I am already quite well aware of what I've done!--but when starting to run out of things to buy and having the monthly budget start to stack up, it makes me antsy to spend it on something, even if it's something outside my more comfortable knowledge base...)

Since you asked Howard I’ll let him respond on the specific Clemente questions.

For one I don’t think you overpaid at all and likely got a deal on the test disc; Congrats by the way. In my view they are all “progressive” proof discs since they were unpublished. There are proof discs for Clemente in both ‘67 and ‘68. There’s a variety of color progression on the discs and there are examples that have full color. I don’t believe it’s known how many are out there, but they are scarce.

I don’t believe your Clemente is mounted on anything. When Topps puts the items in their holder they include a white piece of backing board and affix their hologram. If you want to get PSA to slab it all you have to do is remove it from their holder (Topps uses a sticker to seal it).

[docpatlv]

Congrats Michael, it’s a tough one!

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Empty77

Hey Howard,

I won the Test Disk. I'm not sure I would have stayed in for much more though, but I thought I had seen one listed on ebay as BIN for a lot more a while back and then it was gone. Was that yours or someone else? (The one I remember I'm pretty sure was already PSA-ed, so perhaps that would result in a premium.)

Also, what else can you tell us about them? There is at least one that is not "progressive"? If so I'd rather have that, but for now this will do. Are the other progressives out there different colors so there is only one of each primary color, or is it not really known how many of each are out there?

And if I want this slabbed I could send it in as is and let PSA handle it? I was a little unsure based on how it was described as being mounted on cardboard backing, as far as whether that was now permanent, or just how Topps was adding a passive backing just to stabilize it?

(and no comments necessary from the gallery about having spent that much $ on something I didn't fully understand at the time, as I am already quite well aware of what I've done!--but when starting to run out of things to buy and having the monthly budget start to stack up, it makes me antsy to spend it on something, even if it's something outside my more comfortable knowledge base...)

The listed disc is the 6th one I have ever seen. I have owned 3 of the others. I currently own one. I only know of one that is a final proof (all colors) and it resides in an incredibly advanced collection for a REALLY LONG time. It is very possible there are a few more out there, including a couple of uncut sheets ( I do know of 1 of those too). The discs are DEFINITELY scarce. IMO you got a GREAT deal!! I had listed one of mine on ebay (It was a full yellow version). I believe there was one other listed on ebay a while ago. Interesting question about the number of stages of proof variants. I am going a bit by memory here, but I do not think of the ones I saw any 2 were the same. Anyone else weigh in on this?
PSA only grades these authentic and shouldn't be an issue grading yours as such. The 68's are an entirely other story - I purchased and cut a complete set on a sheet to get what is currently the only Clemente I have ever seen from that set (currently residing in a PSA A holder). Glad to know it was someone in our community that got it! Thanks for sharing.

[Empty77]

Thanks for the well-wishes and guidance fellas. I expect to send it in, so as to be able to register it (despite it being only an "optional" piece and not actually factoring into anything).

It then occurred to me that although it was being talked about, it wasn't actually pictured...so, I text-searched checked the handy #911 catalogue and sure enough, no other appearance in the thread elsewhere either, so, since it arrived, here you go:

1967 Topps Disc test proof (cyan/yellow)

[docpatlv]

Originally Posted by Empty77

Thanks for the well-wishes and guidance fellas. I expect to send it in, so as to be able to register it (despite it being only an "optional" piece and not actually factoring into anything).

It then occurred to me that although it was being talked about, it wasn't actually pictured...so, I text-searched checked the handy #911 catalogue and sure enough, no other appearance in the thread elsewhere either, so, since it arrived, here you go:

1967 Topps Disc test proof (cyan/yellow)

So Michael, do you feel like making ONE more small donation??...lol

That is an incredible item and would be the centerpiece of many Clemente collections. Congrats again.

[Empty77]

Originally Posted by docpatlv

So Michael, do you feel like making ONE more small donation??...lol

That is an incredible item and would be the centerpiece of many Clemente collections. Congrats again.

Hah, maybe not this time!

And it is in really great shape too. Maybe the others are also, what with having not been circulated and all, but compared to other uncirculated odds/ends I am more familiar with seeing like salesman panels or the square corner Topps Super proofs, this is very clean (I suppose not having corners to begin with gives round things a head start in that area...)

[lowpopper]

and it's actually full sized, not hacked down like the rest of them.

[docpatlv]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

and it's actually full sized, not hacked down like the rest of them.

That’s a nice one Greg!