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We get that it's en vogue to rip the TPAs here, but if we want to deal in FACTS and reality, they are going to get signers such as Mantle, Williams, and DiMaggio right an overwhelming majority of the time. Period.
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By the way, to the people who promote those "got ya" videos where they slide one fake by a TPA at a card show -- the forgers and scammers send their thanks. This is the kind of ammunition eBay scammers use to "prove" how bad the TPAs are whenever a credible authenticator rejects their garbage.
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Ok, in all fairness they didn't slide one fake by them, it was 17...but that's neither here not there. Since I respect both Steve and Chris, I put this question to you, and that is you both have to admit there is definitely a couple of holes in the system. First, the whole take your autograph to a cardshow and have them authenticate it on the spot or get an in-person autograph at a show and take it over to a separate table to have a TPA put a sticker on it is flawed. Also, the number of submissions that some of these TPA's are accepting in a year makes it hard to give each autograph the proper time needed to authenticate them. I just think they cut corners and make assumptions based on workload.
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They make it too easy for that to happen. |
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So, bottom line is, do your homework as much as possible, don't assume a TPA is right or wrong, and enjoy the hobby. |
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If the future, and I hope Leon agrees to this, that any photo posted that is grainy, too small, etc., should be removed until the OP can post a proper image.
Either post a clear image or don't post at all. Collectors here share their knowledge for FREE, and the least that OP's can do is post a proper image that can be opined. That's always been a pet peeve of mine. Last edited by thetruthisoutthere; 10-20-2019 at 01:53 PM. |
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![]() Chris has his pet peeves and one of mine are people posting links to these videos or one-sided bashing sites like it is supposed to be some great revelation or "the final word" on the matter. ![]() I recently rejected a terrible Apollo 11 fake that was sold by one of these "tourist gallery" places that uses one of the usual crooked forensic authenticators. When my client requested a refund based upon me rejecting the item, guess what the crooked seller did? Yep... they sent my client a bunch of links to videos and articles just like this one to discredit authenticators. Discredit, smear and spread fake news. This is how forgery scammers operate. While the intent of some of these pieces may be honest, in reality they don't shed much light but are rather used as a tool by dishonest parties. By the way, my client ended up getting a refund of the many thousands of dollars he spent on a worthless fake in a fancy frame. ![]()
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Another point I'd like to make is that it's easy to bash the TPA's; they won't come after you; they won't pursue you.
But if you bash the "bad guys of the hobby," they will do everything they can to discredit you and attempt to destroy your life (both Steve and myself experienced those attempts). Truth is, like Ebay, the hobby has become more of a cesspool of forgeries and junk, and big part of that, is the aforementioned Ebay. Although I do try to compartmentalize, it is impossible to ignore. And what I mean by "compartmentalize," is that the hobby consists of two populations..... Maybe twenty-percent of the hobby are true hobbyists and the other eighty-percent are the delusional autograph collectors, impulse buyers and the scammers (the ones who take advantage of the "system" and the aforementioned "delusional and impulse buyers"). You can bash the TPA's all you want, but as an example hows does a "company" like Guaranteed Forensic Authenticators (Stephen Rocchi) stay in business "Forensically Authenticating" thousands of copies of forgeries!!!! And what about Lee Trythall and Scott Malack (Coach's Corner Auctions)!!!! The point I am making is that collectors continue to bash the TPA's every chance they get, but they're "bored" with those that continue to expose the likes of Stephen Rocchi, Coach's Corner, Ted Taylor, Chris "I Never Saw An Autograph I Didn't Like" Morales and others. I was on another site exposing the various forged/counterfeit cards, and I was told "It's old news, etc." It's never "old news" as long as it continues. The TPA's aren't perfect, but they make the headlines, but a headline about "GFA/Stephen Rocchi" just wouldn't be juicy enough. I know I went off the rails a bit here, but I needed to vent. |
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Preach it, brother!!
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