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Old 07-06-2020, 03:04 PM
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Arguably four of the five most sought after 1963 Topps cards were contained in the 22 card blue block on the 7th series sheet, the Pete Rose rookie card, Roberto Clemente, the Willie Stargell rookie card, and the Rusty Staub rookie card. I have figured out who is on each side of the Pete Rose card, it's between Ron Moeller and Johnny Blanchard, but not who is opposite of it or where it is on the sheet. It is on the orange inset circle row. Clemente is the 2nd card on the red inset circle row, has Dick Hall to the left and is opposite of Hank Fischer, I don't know yet who is to the right of him. The Willie Stargell rookie card is the tenth card on the red inset circle row, has Mike de la Hoz to it's right, and is opposite of Don Mossi, I don't know who is to his left. The Rusty Staub rookie card is the 11th edge card on the orange inset circle row, has Hank Fischer to the left, and is opposite of Dick Hall. There is a wrong back Clemente on WorthPoint that has Don Mossi on the back, which works out perfectly into my layout of the sheet if the whole back sheet is upside down. There is a wrong back Pete Rose rookie on WorthPoint but unfortunately it doesn't have a back scan or tell who is on the back.
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Cliff, do you have scans of all the cards from the sheets you're trying to recreate?

For the 1966 thread, I ended up downloading virtually all of the high number cards from COMC, and then bringing them into Photoshop to standardize the sizes. It took a crapload of time to make every file uniform (2.7" x 3.8" @ 200 DPI), but now I have a scan of each card at the ready to quickly plug in to the 'uncut sheet' layout document I created. I'd be happy to help with your 1963 sheet(s) effort, but don't have the time to grab all of the scans at the moment.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:35 PM
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Cliff, do you have scans of all the cards from the sheets you're trying to recreate?

For the 1966 thread, I ended up downloading virtually all of the high number cards from COMC, and then bringing them into Photoshop to standardize the sizes. It took a crapload of time to make every file uniform (2.7" x 3.8" @ 200 DPI), but now I have a scan of each card at the ready to quickly plug in to the 'uncut sheet' layout document I created. I'd be happy to help with your 1963 sheet(s) effort, but don't have the time to grab all of the scans at the moment.
I searched for sites that I could use to simulate a 11 x 12 sheet, the best I could find was BeFunky's Collage Maker. The only problem is the biggest grid that they have is 6 x 6, which I used two of them combined to make 11 x 6 grids which work fine for home computers but they split up on cellphone screens. The one good thing about it is you can put in any size scan and it will adjust them to the same size. I noticed that you were using COMC scans that are apparently one standard size. If I can find a better site or download better software I would. But no, I don't have the 63's in uniform size, I have scans of miscuts and generic cards in all different sizes from several different sources. I think I need much more card placement before it would be worthwhile for you to make virtual sheets yet, other than one row mainly all I have right now are the edge cards in their proper spot. I have quite a few puzzle pieces that fit together but I don't know where they are exactly on the sheets yet.
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Old 07-08-2020, 10:10 PM
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With everything going on on the site, I figured I may as well update what new cards I have figured out on the 6th sheet, plus the fact I messed up on my first try on this sheet by having 12 spaces rather than the correct 11. Unlike the 7th series, I have quite a few scans of wrong back 6th series cards. A wrong back 1963 Topps card is actually a card from a sheet that had the whole back printed upside down, so the card on the back is actually the card that is on the opposite end of the sheet. To put it simply, Curt Flood, the card in the top right corner, will always have Jay Hook, the card in the bottom left corner, on the reverse of a wrong back card, or vice versa. This is a work in progress, I may have to switch the two blue rows on the 6th series sheet as I get more information. I have a scan of the back of a miscut yellow based Paul Toth card and the only card that I can find that matches the sliver of a card opposite of it is a blue based orange circle Carroll Hardy, and that doesn't jibe with my current layout. This is the top half of the sheet, I will do the bottom half in my next post. ETA, it splits up on cellphone screens.
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Old 07-08-2020, 10:28 PM
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This is what I believe is the bottom half of the 1963 6th series sheet. ETA, it splits up on cellphone screens.
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Old 07-11-2020, 08:29 PM
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Slowly but surely, Gene Green is to the left of Barney Schultz so that means Gene Green-Barney Schultz-Dale Long are consecutive on the 6th series red based green circle row, red based yellow circle Steve Boros is opposite of the Tigers team card which forces the Tigers team card to be in the 7th series red based green circle row as I suspected it was, and I believe I may have found the final edge card I was searching for, which would put the Marcelino Lopez rookie card on the left side of the 7th series red based yellow circle row.
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Old 07-16-2020, 05:14 PM
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I got the 1963 Topps miscut lot today, the only new one I could make out is Jose Pagan is next to the yellow checklist card in the 7th series yellow based red inset circle row. Unfortunately there isn't enough evidence on the Adair card to make out who is to the left or who is above the Cook and Klaus cards. I was already able to see Cal McLish is the left of Osborne and that Cook-Klaus-Russ Snyder are consecutive in the 7th series yellow based blue inset circle row.
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