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Warren Spahn won 363 games, most by a modern day pitcher. He also lost 3 years to military service. It's possible he would have won 400 games. He had thirteen 20 win seasons. I realize today's metrics don't value wins, but Spahn was incredible. He wasn't flashy. Maybe that's why he gets so little support.
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i think this thread has got me thinking more about Spahn, especially with those missed prime years.
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Other factors against Spahn were a small market mostly not so great team, a very ordinary physical stature and looks, and success based more on relentless consistency and finesse than blowing people away. But especially as was pointed out missing the years he did, a remarkable career. Destined to forever be at or near the top of those underrated lists we do once in a while.
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Randy Johnson in his prime followed by Koufax. Nobody else is really even close IMO.
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I would rank them like this
Grove Johnson Spahn Carlton Koufax/Kershaw even at this point anyhow gun to my head I would take Kershaw. Hubbell Could see flipping Johnson and Spahn. Koufax just too short a career, however great his peak, and I think it's been show that peak benefited a lot from pitching in Dodger Stadium. Take away the good looks, the heroic pitching in pain, the not pitching on Yom Kippur, etc., I think the mystique of Koufax goes away to an extent.
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But I would probably put Spahn ahead of Johnson and probably put Koufax ahead of Kershaw
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What if the question was "As the GM of a new franchise, which starting LHP would you pick first, assuming you had them for their entire career?"
Now you've got to weigh peak vs. longevity. What is more important?
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C'mon man, if you're always going to harp on Kershaw's post season failure then you have to give credit to Sandy for his post season dominance!
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