At least 14 Florida Marlins test + covid

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

I'm not sure why looking into the credentials or background of someone who touts a cure that is a departure from most agreed-upon medical research is not "useful"?? I don't particularly trust the government (either side) or media (either side,) but before completely trusting someone highly touted by the far-right or far-left, how about some research?

As I said before, I'd be thrilled if some sort of chloroquine cure would work for everyone, or even most. But when a big pharma company that actually sells the drug says "hey, we don't want this touted as curing covid because there is no research to say it does," that gives me pause. When research groups from the US cancel trials because they feel there is danger, it's easy to say "politics." But what about when researchers from OUTSIDE the US say the same thing? I've heard zinc and vitamin D is great for helping people, but if you go back before covid, you can find many articles showing how too many people lack zinc and vitamin d in their daily diets, so maybe that's part of the problem?

As for Dr. Zelenko, he claimed to have treated and cured xxx amount of covid patients, depending on the source. However, he also states that early on in the pandemic, he didn't even bother testing his patients, he just gave his cocktail to anyone at risk, even if they were asymptomatic. I don't think that gives credence to his numbers. Also, it does not appear that he has gone on to save "much larger numbers."

"Dr. Vladimir “Zev” Zelenko, family practitioner and major proponent of the use of hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin to treat COVID -19. Among his claims is that he treated anywhere from 300 to 1450 COVID-19 patients. Of 405 high risk patients treated early in the course of their illnesses, there were “2 deaths, four on respirators. The rest recovered fully.” Those are mighty impressive numbers, but no one else has seen the data. It should come as no surprise that the fact checking website Snopes was unable to substantiate his claims.

After community leaders in the town where he practiced criticized him for spreading misinformation, Zelenko decided to leave his practice—destination unknown." It appears now he has written a book and is starting a website.

Loud hand clap of applause for amazing copy and paste skills. But do you have an original thought of your own?

A quick internet search reveals that Dr. Zalenko moved his practice to another location within the same city, but his practice is still open for business. You can call and verify it if you want (845) 782-0000.

Destination unknown? Another quick internet search shows Dr. Zalenko is currently in the hospital undergoing cancer treatment.

You'e look ridiculous trying to discredit Dr Immanuel. You continue to look ridiculous by trying to discredit Dr. Zalenko.

I'll give you one more shot. How about trying to discredit the Michigan State Rep who credits her recovery to Hydroxychloroquine?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ry/2967210001/

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Loud hand clap of applause for amazing copy and paste skills. But do you have an original thought of your own?

A quick internet search reveals that Dr. Zalenko moved his practice to another location within the same city, but his practice is still open for business. You can call and verify it if you want (845) 782-0000.

Destination unknown? Another quick internet search shows Dr. Zalenko is currently in the hospital undergoing cancer treatment.

You'e look ridiculous trying to discredit Dr Immanuel. You continue to look ridiculous by trying to discredit Dr. Zalenko.

I'll give you one more shot. How about trying to discredit the Michigan State Rep who credits her recovery to Hydroxychloroquine?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ry/2967210001/

Since you can't seem to read my words about hydroxychoroquine, how about you go ahead and tell me what thoughts you've posted here are original?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Since you can't seem to read my words about hydroxychoroquine, how about you go ahead and tell me what thoughts you've posted here are original?

My original thoughts? Easy. That thousands of doctors have had success prescribing Hydroxychoroquine for treating their patients. They have no motive in disclosing their results, but yet they're being shut down by social media.

They're touting a drug (Hydroxychoroquine) that costs $.83 and has had success for their patients, compared to another treatment drug (Remdesivir) that costs $3120. Follow the money.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

My original thoughts? Easy. That thousands of doctors have had success prescribing Hydroxychoroquine for treating their patients. They have no motive in disclosing their results, but yet they're being shut down by social media.

They're touting a drug (Hydroxychoroquine) that costs $.83 and has had success for their patients, compared to another treatment drug (Remdesivir) that costs $3120. Follow the money.

OK, and MY original thoughts were that this drug shows some promise, but there are reams of information showing either it does nothing or it can be harmful. My original thoughts, as I stated, were I sure wish it would work. My original thoughts are the very first doctor you supported and linked to has some extreme, almost crazy medical views which, as I stated, taints her expertise in my mind. My original thought, stated here for the first time, is I'm happy that thousands of doctors have had positive results, but what percentage of US doctors is that? Seems like thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of doctors don't consider it a viable source? My original thoughts, as stated before, are that I feel there is a lot that we don't know that could/should be explored, like the lack of vitamin D and zinc in most people's systems.

These are some of my original thoughts. I have stated them clearly, without jerkiness of any kind. Feel free to respond without the arrogant, condescending attitude.

[Shoeless Moe]

Covidiots!!!!! Who say the season sucks....

Suck this:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-carlos-correa


LOVE IT!!!

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Covidiots!!!!! Who say the season sucks....

Suck this:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-carlos-correa


LOVE IT!!!

The ‘stros have this coming all year. Wait until the fans get back in the stands. Dodgers-Astros playing is like being at a NASCAR race. You know the big wreck is just around the next turn.....this was nothing.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by drmondobueno

The ‘stros have this coming all year. Wait until the fans get back in the stands. Dodgers-Astros playing is like being at a NASCAR race. You know the big wreck is just around the next turn.....this was nothing.

LOVE IT!!!! Not a huge fan of throwing at a guys head, but if you are precise enough to just miss it, then all good. Prefer though they just drill 'em in the back.

And wouldn't mind one thrown in their dugout every now and then.

Love good baseball drama.

Covid drama not so much. Like The Donald said "one day it will just, poof, disappear"........he failed to mention that one day may not be until 2021 or 2022.....but oh well, we'll get there. Good to have Bean Balls to keep us amused until then.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

OK, and MY original thoughts were that this drug shows some promise, but there are reams of information showing either it does nothing or it can be harmful. My original thoughts, as I stated, were I sure wish it would work. My original thoughts are the very first doctor you supported and linked to has some extreme, almost crazy medical views which, as I stated, taints her expertise in my mind. My original thought, stated here for the first time, is I'm happy that thousands of doctors have had positive results, but what percentage of US doctors is that? Seems like thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of doctors don't consider it a viable source? My original thoughts, as stated before, are that I feel there is a lot that we don't know that could/should be explored, like the lack of vitamin D and zinc in most people's systems.

These are some of my original thoughts. I have stated them clearly, without jerkiness of any kind. Feel free to respond without the arrogant, condescending attitude.

I give you names of 2 doctors that are using Hydroxychoroquine and you try to tear down their credentials and make them look stupid and I'm the one with "jerkiness" and an "arrogant, condescending attitude?" Pot meet kettle.

Not only doctors are claiming that it works, patients are as well. Go read the comments of the Michigan State Representative.

• "It went from the headaches being severe to fluid building up in my lungs, to sweats breaking out to the cough and my breathing being labored."
  
• "It all happened in a matter of hours."
  
• "For me, it saved my life.”

Let me ask you a simple question. Let's say you're diagnosed with the Virus and your doctor tells you he/she is going to prescribe you Hydroxychoroquine. Do you take it? Yes or no?

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I give you names of 2 doctors that are using Hydroxychoroquine and you try to tear down their credentials and make them look stupid and I'm the one with "jerkiness" and an "arrogant, condescending attitude?" Pot meet kettle.

Not only doctors are claiming that it works, patients are as well. Go read the comments of the Michigan State Representative.

• "It went from the headaches being severe to fluid building up in my lungs, to sweats breaking out to the cough and my breathing being labored."
  
• "It all happened in a matter of hours."
  
• "For me, it saved my life.”

Let me ask you a simple question. Let's say you're diagnosed with the Virus and your doctor tells you he/she is going to prescribe you Hydroxychoroquine. Do you take it? Yes or no?

No, I don't. But to be fair, I rarely go to the doctor, and I am very anti-pharma by nature.

As for your Michigan state rep, she has a great story, and I am truly glad this worked out for her. Now what about mr. Bergen's story, it didn't work out so well for those poor people. Please respond to his story.

As for your doctors, feel free to follow them, I don't care. But if you have the right to post on here a video of a doctor giving advice, I have the right to post that she also believes reptilian creatures are running our government. Or a doctor who says he's cured 600 people, yet doesn't see a point to testing, and was asked to leave his community because of his comments (not what I'd expect from the neighborhood savior). Some might feel it adds some context. If you don't think it matters, you can ignore me.

God forbid, if you were to catch the virus, and you take this particular cure, I hope it works for you. I hope you have better results than many have had.

Question for you: do you wear a mask when in public, even if not mandated?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Now what about mr. Bergen's story, it didn't work out so well for those poor people.

I already addressed that. Heart problems are a possible side effect of Hydroxychoroquine. All drugs have possible side effects.

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Question for you: do you wear a mask when in public, even if not mandated?

I do.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I give you names of 2 doctors that are using Hydroxychoroquine and you try to tear down their credentials and make them look stupid and I'm the one with "jerkiness" and an "arrogant, condescending attitude?"

LOL. One of those doctors today said that if Facebook doesn't put her video back up then God will destroy them.

Seriously, this is the doctor you're hanging your hat on? If Obama or any Democrat trotted this woman onto the national stage you'd be laughing your butt off (Rightfully so) and you know it. LOL, I mean, I've always known you were partisan, but you're really hitching your wagon to alien DNA and demon pregnancies? This is hilarious.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Seriously, this is the doctor you're hanging your hat on?

No, sir. Re-read my first post. I only said the was the latest doctor to be taken down by social media for touting Hydroxychoroquine. There have been many.