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Old 09-23-2020, 12:02 PM
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Both appear to be Type 1 photos. We know Conlon worked with other companies sometimes but even his well publicized relationship with Underwood at a few times in his career is a huge mystery. Sports photographers back then were employees of newspapers so if their editor wanted to share photos, thats what happened.
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Old 09-23-2020, 12:09 PM
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Also, looks like a Babe Ruth photo-bomb in the background!
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Old 09-23-2020, 12:16 PM
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As I look at these more closely, they are not identical. Note the stadium tier in background is level in one shot and at a pretty good angle in the other shot. Figure in background at right is also closer to the border than in the other photo. Maybe from same negative but just printed at slightly different angles
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On second thought, they seem like 2 different photos like taken at same or nearly same time.

I like idea that Ruth is in background!
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Back then, news services rarely credited/listed the photographer.

For old news photos and Hollywood photos, you can do research to try and figure out the photographer, and it's often someone famouse. For movie stills, you can look up the movie and see who were the photographers
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Looks like the same negative but cropped slightly different during printing.
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They rotated the negative about 5º or so counterclockwise for the second print. In both photos you can see that his right shoulder is parallel with the upper deck façade. In the first photo the façade is almost parallel with the top of the photo. Also the field level wall runs directly across the photo. In the second photo both the façade and wall slope downwards right to left.
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That seems like best explanation, but...

The earlier version has a International Newsreel credit. I always assumed that this reflected a copyright on the image(?)

If Conlon was photographer, given markings on the later photo referencing Washington, he must have sold the photo without his stamp to International Newsreel used in the earlier photo, and then later in the year provided same to Cleveland News?

Can anyone shed some light on how these credits work?
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