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Old 09-27-2020, 12:42 PM
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Pujols is damn close, but he will fall short on runs and his BA is 1 point below .300 now and likely will not rise above and may drop a point or two before he retires. Still, it shows how great of a player he was as well.
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If Babe Ruth hadn't spent his first few years as a pitcher, he easily makes that list.
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If Babe Ruth hadn't spent his first few years as a pitcher, he easily makes that list.
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If Babe Ruth hadn't spent his first few years as a pitcher, he easily makes that list.
He also didn't have to play against any black players
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He also didn't have to play against any black players
Nor did he play night games, face specialty pitchers, or travel coast to coast. Nonetheless, I have a sneaking suspicion that those factors would not have derailed his production.
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Nor did he play night games, face specialty pitchers, or travel coast to coast. Nonetheless, I have a sneaking suspicion that those factors would not have derailed his production.
Definitely not doubting the Babes status as a Legend but I feel people underrate Hank and what he did in his career
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Definitely not doubting the Babes status as a Legend but I feel people underrate Hank and what he did in his career
I think everyone considers Aaron an All-Time Great, who underrates him?
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I think everyone considers Aaron an All-Time Great, who underrates him?
I agree they consider him an Alltime great but I don't think the casual fan ever puts him up in the conversation as the greatest. We forget that this board has more knowledgeable fans than the general public and we rate him higher here(justifiably so)
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I think everyone considers Aaron an All-Time Great, who underrates him?
I under-rate him, I confess. Probably because he was so damn consistent throughout his career. You could basically mark him done for 40 and 100 every year. Didn't he hit 44 HRs 5 times?

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Definitely not doubting the Babes status as a Legend but I feel people underrate Hank and what he did in his career
I believe that if a player like Aaron would have been allowed to compete during Ruths time he would have similarly dominated the game. Personally I would take Hank Aaron any hitter in the history of the game.
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I would take Williams as my first hitter building a lineup. But my first pick on putting a team together would be Mays.All great points above mine!
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He also didn't have to play against any black players
Or against any Latino players.
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Or against any Latino players.
Actually this isn’t really true. During the teens and twenties there were a number of Latin players - including Dolf Luque, Mike González, Armando Marsans, Rafael Almedia and a number of others. In addition Ruth lead a barnstorming trip to Cuba in 1920 and played against all of the Cuban Greats
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If Babe Ruth hadn't spent his first few years as a pitcher, he easily makes that list.
Supposedly that was the only reason that his hitting career wasn't possibly ruined (if he'd come up as a position player, teams in his first years would've likely tried to coach the big swing out of him). The norm in the dead ball era.

But by the time he'd been in the league a few years and had the, well, pitcher's chance to keep hitting the ball to the moon, I imagine no one wanted to mess with what he was doing by then.
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Pujols is damn close, but he will fall short on runs and his BA is 1 point below .300 now and likely will not rise above and may drop a point or two before he retires. Still, it shows how great of a player he was as well.
Too bad that "damn close" doesn't count.

IF you allow the definition of "damn close" to include "not close at all" then I could have joined Aaron in his group which currently numbers one member.

And I would argue that Stan Musial is "damn closer" than Albert.


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If Babe Ruth hadn't spent his first few years as a pitcher, he easily makes that list.
Yep... IF

I would have joined Mr. Aaron on that list of one, making us a great duo... IF



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