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Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?
I was reading the thread on the main page about the 14 Marlins players testing positive for COVID and Jake made an interesting statement. He basically said that the virus will be around for years to come because 20-30% of people are not going to get a vaccine.
I'll be in that 20-30% (if not larger). I'm going to pass and take my chances with the virus. Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available? |
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There will be a big debate on the news places about whether we have to cater to the non vaccinated people......so will restaurants have to keep distancing customers etc or be liable etc...or maybe a covid and and non covid vaccine seating section. we are going to be living with covid for years go come.. i bet you it will be in the thousands in terms of people that die or get really sick as a result of taking a vacinne which can occur when you talking about a BILLION + doses. |
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I don't think I will have much of a choice. I am at at-risk individual, and my two jobs in education (high school and college) mean I work around hundreds of different people. My father is at-risk with lung problems. It'll be what it is (I'm kind of a fatalistic person). And if I die, my wife has a hefty life insurance policy on me to help ease the pain.
I'd get a DNR bracelet, but my wife would probably kill me if I did.
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I really wanted to keep this more like a survey instead of a discussion, but you bring up another interesting point. Once restaurants and other businesses fully reopen, how would they know who has been vaccinated and who hasn't? In other words, if they wanted refuse service to those that haven't been vaccinated, how would they do that? As far as I know, you can't legally ask that question. Anybody could lie and say they had when they hadn't.
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There may be laws against suing restaurants in which you can prove you were infected that could apply but thats going to be by political lines What about schools, i guess you will want to home school kids if they arent vaccinated...that debate will rage on in many areas and will go on for years. If its a religious belief not to have vaccinations does the whole school now have to cater to that even though costs would be through the roof and there will be even more numbers saying risk to youth very low.... will go on and on........ its going to be the new normal....players out with covid the new normal as well.. |
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I've never had a flu shot in my life, I'm not starting now. No.
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right so you will be at risk anytime you go out for the next 3 years at least.....not taking any position, there will be millions just like you.......is what it is.. the new normal...
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Not trying to dodge the question, but for me I want to see particulars about any vaccine before I make a decision. The expected efficacy level and challenge stage safety results will have to be made available.
I have no built in bias against one. Get the flu shot each year even though it's a crap shoot on an individual basis, and received all the standard immunizations that any post WWII child was given. I'll take it if persuaded it's effective (even if only at a public health level), and most of all safe. Last edited by 58pinson; 07-27-2020 at 03:32 PM. |
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Not immediately, I will wait a reasonable time, look at the available data, and weigh if it is effective or not and the risks of a probably rushed vaccine, but I would plan on probably getting it.
The death rate is incredibly low, the data suggests that it really does have a death rate under 1% and probably similar to the seasonal flu after all, though it is more contagious, and this thing has been blown way, way out of proportion (I wonder why? hmmm) as the media pretends the Black Plague 2.0 is here. However, it is still preferable and beneficial to your health to protect against highly-infectious diseases, even if the survival rate is 99.6-99.8% percent. I have pre-existing conditions that make it more likely to be lethal in my case, and so have greater incentive to do so myself. More importantly, freedom = the right to make your own decisions. That includes poor decisions. |
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people keep forgetting about the health damage that is occurring when we stay at home and economy gone as well.... |
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I don't smoke or drink soda, precisely it is terrible for my health to do so. I am not in favor of banning anything or regulating anything here, so I'm not sure what you are objecting too.
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I see a lot of people saying (not in this thread) that they are waiting for a vaccine, yet I wonder how many of those people actually understand how ineffectual flu vaccines are in general. Do they expect THIS vaccine to be any more effective? I would wager dollars to donuts that in many people's minds they equate a vaccine to a cure.
That said, I get a flu vaccine every year and would likely get this one myself. For my wife's sake, not mine. If it were JUST me, I probably wouldn't get either. |
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That's my thinking as well. With nothing existing, it's just way too early to tell.
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Hell yes. Vaccinations can only produce herd immunity if enough people get them. If you don't without a really good reason, you're just sabotaging an urgently needed public health measure and guaranteeing that this stupid pandemic and economic chaos will drag on and on.
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I am getting older, overweight, and have diabetes. BLEEP yes I am getting it when it is ready.
If I was younger and healthy I would not get vaccinated and roll the dice. I honestly have not followed this much. Can you get it more than once or do they not really know yet? If it is a one and done I would first get the test to see if I have had it already. |
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Yes, no question. My late mother was a nurse, my brother is a retired MD so if he's OK with the vaccine data I'm in.
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Definitely. I'm young (ish) and healthy, but there are lots of people who aren't. Regardless of what it does for me, I'll take it to help protect others.
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not objecting to anything, just saying its a free country..
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side affects
Initial most likley side affects of most Vaccines
Pain, redness, tenderness or swelling at injection site Fatigue Headache Itching at injection site Nausea Dizziness or fainting (most common in adolescents) Fever Mild rash to severe rash on arms upper torso these symptoms can last up to 30 days A recent clinical trial reported that more than one-third of vaccine recipients missed 2-3 days of work or school because of these vaccine-related symptoms LONG TERM side affects just look up Ebola Vaccine scary with only a 70% success rate and handing over billions of dollars to big pharma, yes the Opioide big pharma sounds like fun sign me up |
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right but remember it will save the .001 percent of people who contract the virus (will be harder to contract as less will be infected by the time the vaccine is rolled out) AND die of it which will be hard because of many medicines that will also be available to prevent death and bad long term symptoms.....so get ready to sign up.. |
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On a side note, I received a full round of hepatitis b vaccine before I moved to Thailand. About 5 years ago my doctor did blood work and said I had no evidence in antibodies that I ever received it, so I had to get it again.... Some doctors are worried the covid vaccine will be the same problem. It will wear off and be needed in annual doses. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
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I don't know anything about the polio vaccine or how it works or what the risks are with getting one, but I still got it and I don't have polio. I don't know anyone with polio either.
I will get the vaccine no questions asked when it is available. Edited to add: if it was a seasonal shot I had to get regularly I would get that too. Last edited by packs; 07-28-2020 at 10:57 AM. |
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I have no idea why it's became so political; not on this board but just in general. That being said I will probably not get it. Then again I'm 34 and in reasonably good health.
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I'm really not sure how I'll respond to any availability:
If it's fast-tracked, I will wait for those braver than me...and watch for side-effects. If the scientists give consensus approval to a vaccine produced over the normal timeline of previous 'safe' vaccines, I will get it...I'm over-weight and turning 65 in January, so I'm more willing to 'inconvenience' myself. Hang in there folks! .
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Absolutely. me too. |
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I will get a vaccine for many reasons including that I have an 80 year old mother. Same reason I wear a mask in public.
If people want to make sure the economy remains in the tank make sure to convince lots of people not to get the vaccine. |
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Can I borrow the crystal ball when it's time to pick an investment? It must work really well.... |
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Absolutely. First in line.
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I can listen to every legitmate doctor in the world, or I can listen to someone who takes advice from a "doctor" who believes in "demon sperm" and "alien DNA." That doesn't seem like a difficult choice to me, and I wonder why it does to so many other people.
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On a more serious note: |
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I'll most likely get vaccinated but even if I don't, the restaurant problem is an easy fix. If there is anything this whole thing has taught me it is that I can easily live without restaurants/dining out and attending live sporting events. Life goes on.
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seems a lot of suffering going on giving the lack of jobs when you cant spend 10 dollars + going out per meal |
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Yes I get the Flu shot every year which is a crap shoot, I have gotten the Lyme's Disease vaccination when it came out I got the Hepatitis C Vaccine when I was a Vol Fireman also got the pneumovax and the whooping cough. I'm just a pin cushion
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Yeah I'll get it just like I did for countless other diseases as a child.The chances of something negative happening from a vaccine are so slim, and the positives of not getting a disease are to great. Most people have gotten vaccines for polio, hepatitis, the flu and many other diseases and are just fine. I usually get the flu shot every year, but I didn't 2 years in a row, and I got the flu. It sucked, I won't be forgetting to do that again. Once the vaccine is out, if someone decided not to get it, then they are taking their own chance. Nothing special should be done for anyone who willingly doesn't get it. If you get sick, it's your own fault at that point.
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When the second wave of folks take it.
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To answer the original question: Yes, absolutely.
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I get every vaccine and flu. I Wont get the covid shot just because these other vaccines have so much long term data behind them where the covid shot doesn't.
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Yes. I'm young and healthy, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't respect other people's right to remain healthy should I contract the virus and remain asymptomatic.
Greater good, folks. I wasn't alive, but I don't think anyone hesitated to get the polio vaccine... Last edited by rjp087; 11-15-2020 at 03:29 AM. |
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The first polio vaccine was a disaster which actually caused polio and killed ppl Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Unless I'm not remembering correctly what I saw on a PBS show about the polio vaccine a while ago, the problem wasn't with the vaccine but with the manufacturing of the vaccine at a specific facility. Instead of containing dead polio virus, it was made with live polio virus at one location. Shots of the vaccine made at any other facility did not create any problems. It was a manufacturing failure, not a vaccine failure.
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I get my first shot tomorrow.
Was hoping to get it a long time ago but I wasn't fat enough to qualify for having 2 health problems. I am only in the lowest of 3 categories for being obese.LOL |
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Get my second shot next Monday.
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I got my shots in January. After the first one, I had a little soreness in my arm, after the second, I felt like I got hit by a freight train for about a day. Then I slept like a log that night and was fine the next morning.
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Been fully vaxxed since February. No ill effects. Had a sore arm for a few days after both shots. No other side effects for me. 100 % would do again.
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