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Yeah, I don't buy much anymore, unless it's to flip. And since PSA banned me from submitting, I got rid of most of my graded collection.
What would you grade the card?
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Not just the pwcc auctions. Something weird in the water tonight.
I'm baffled by this one. And yeah it's football, but no one reads that forum. This set goes for $150 if it's typical raw '80s sharp. A place with bad feedback and one very fuzzy pic of the Jerry Rice (card could be any condition)....no clue what happened here https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Topps-...-/124493844052 |
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Yep. Greg Morris was also getting some huge bids on the raw '66s, even by Greg Morris standards.
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Just a thought, stimulus checks on the way?
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Maybe? Or the spike in traffic (presumably) from the big PWCC graded auction brought extra eyeballs and bids to the raw cards as well? Do any of the people who buy high-end graded cards ever also buy raw?
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And to bring it back on topic, I find the prices on the 1955 Clemente depressing. I am 21 cards from finishing 1955, but don't expect to ever finish unless prices come back down to earth. My wife is an equestrian and she just bought a nice French dressage saddle for $650. When I lamented that the cards I need to finish a couple sets (missing the Ryan rookie for 1968) could cost that much or more, she looked at me like I am crazy. And, she might just be right. Last edited by carlsonjok; 12-31-2020 at 03:34 PM. Reason: My spelling sucks after beer o'clock. |
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I was going to try and buy it but I thought $100 for shipping was a little steep.
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As for what I would grade it, hell if I know. I'm just back into the hobby after a "break" since the junk wax days, so I'm trying to catch up to modern grading practices. From what I've seen, the TPGs are so inconsistent and the differences between one grade and the next one up or down are so small/subjective/arbitrary that the whole thing seems like, er, a house of cards. I'd probably grade it as "really nice looking, would have been NM in 1989." Everyone was so much happier with the condition of their cards back then! Different times, different times. Last edited by ASF123; 12-29-2020 at 09:14 PM. |
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https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=294055 One of many. This is a short one compared to the much larger thread. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1298306
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Yeah, I spent some time reading a very long Blowout thread on the trimming scandal to educate myself. I have to say, as someone who hasn't been in the hobby for years to get acculturated to PSA and the other TPGs as they were taking over, it's astounding to me that they have any credibility at all, let alone the power to determine the market that collectors allow them to have.
I get the desire for "standardized objective" grading to facilitate transactions, but man, their execution is poor and their business model seems to be just one bad incentive after another. That Griffey trimming is absurd - as is the fact that someone will pay almost $200 for a 1991 Ken Griffey Jr. just because some (clearly incompetent or corrupt) guy at PSA put a 10 on the slab instead of an 8 or a 9. Coming back to the hobby and seeing this is like, I dunno, moving back to your hometown after being gone for 25 years and finding that they've elected a ferret as the mayor or something. And the ferret is in its fifth term, with an 80% approval rating. |
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I was using their system to contact their users who had trimmed cards in their possession so that they could return them to either PSA or the company they bought them from. PSA doesn't like when people cost them money.
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Clearly a high end card, but that print damage on the front with the black smear is a bit close to the line for me to be an 8. I wonder (if everything was on the level, of course...) if the card was otherwise considered a 9 and that brought it down to an 8. It's not horrible, but it is noticeable.
I've seen plenty of vintage 8's before with a touch of print damage, but it's usually more subtle than that.
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