already too many bids

[YazFenway08]

I was FINALLY, after many months, going to be able to contribute some insight to one of these awesome threads....and George beat me to the punch
I love everything related to the 1874 tour...I think that box isn’t likely “Franken-d” and I think it is perhaps irrationally, exuberantly priced

[1880nonsports]

I give up..... Box and stamping is real. Label is not nor is "baseball" the brand of cigars. I'd be willing to bet twice the final price and give you four to one that lifting up the corner of that paper whatever it is would reveal the truth. Win or lose that would be more fun than whatever I've been up to lately. Not an idle proposition - I really would do so.

[aquarius31]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

I give up..... Box and stamping is real. Label is not nor is "baseball" the brand of cigars. I'd be willing to bet twice the final price and give you four to one that lifting up the corner of that paper whatever it is would reveal the truth. Win or lose that would be more fun than whatever I've been up to lately. Not an idle proposition - I really would do so.

As I previously mentioned, you guys are the experts on these boxes. What I’m saying is that the ‘label’ is not from a publication. If you pulled it off, I believe it would be a blank back. It could be a small format print or still a cigar label that was intended for some other distribution. We’ll likely have no idea as it’s in poor condition and was likely placed on that box a long time ago.


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[1880nonsports]

lifting up the paper would allow one to see the back of the paper - BUT ADDITIONALLY - there is a spot where the paper is torn - in that spot one can see parts of a bulbous object (like the top of a "scroll") under the paper that is burnt into the top box lid - lifting the paper off would expose the actual brand name of the cigars. Also, I have never seen a box with such a label on the outside of the box. But then again I've only examined in person or print thousands and thousands of boxes :-) Offering these comments only as opinion - not fact. There were always anomalies in the manufacture and distribution of tobacco products - just not this time :-)

In any event - here's a great sport related cigar box from my collection - happy to post and share it - quite a famous pedestrian race (Astley) is featured.....

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

lifting up the paper would allow one to see the back of the paper - BUT ADDITIONALLY - there is a spot where the paper is torn - in that spot one can see parts of a bulbous object (like the top of a "scroll") under the paper that is burnt into the top box lid - lifting the paper off would expose the actual brand name of the cigars. Also, I have never seen a box with such a label on the outside of the box. But then again I've only examined in person or print thousands and thousands of boxes :-) Offering these comments only as opinion - not fact. There were always anomalies in the manufacture and distribution of tobacco products - just not this time :-)

In any event - here's a great sport related cigar box from my collection - happy to post and share it - quite a famous pedestrian race (Astor) is featured.....

Over the "A" in Ball? As I said, this is totally out of my realm but is an interesting mystery (or fake).