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Jansen for day #5. This one's a black back.
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I wouldn't mind trying to find a nicer example, but still like this one.
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I guess I never really looked at the cards that closely before, but there is definitely a consistent, noticeable difference in the coloring of the pictures between the red back and the black back card.
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My BB Jansen.
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You're welcome.
Although this article doesn't specifically say Sy changed the back colors, in another article I read, that I can't currently find, it read that he did. I also know I read a few articles, likely around 4-5 yrs ago, that read that black backs were more rare/more valuable than red backs but the general consensus with members on this site say that is not true. I know some black back cards are way tougher than some red backed cards (pop report) so those will command a premium in high grade but I guess that is as far as it goes? "Existing in both black-back and red-back variations, it’s apparent that the red-back cards consistently offer superior picture quality, leading to speculation that Topps was not happy with their first attempt and resolved to make improvements by increasing the quality while changing the reverse color to red as a sort of “clean slate” approach. The Johnny Sain and Joe Page “wrong back” errors (#48 and #49) exist only in black-back form as they were corrected before the switch to red; only the correct version exists on the red-back variety. All cards after the first series are in red-back form only. High grade specimens of the black-back cards are almost always scarcer then their corresponding red-backs, suggesting that the switch from black to red happened fairly early in the process and considerably fewer black-backs made it into circulation. https://milehighcardco.com/blog/the-...-is-new-again/ Here's some other great stories about the 52 Topps cards, how they came to be and how they changed the hobby/card collecting forever. Enjoy. http://www.sportscardradio.com/1952-...intage-review/ https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...seball-cards-2 https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...opps-baseball/ https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...than-meets-eye
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Notes about 1952 Topps First series 1-80 Red Back variations usually sell for approx. 15-20% more than the listed price |
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Definitely need to work on my '52 game. I've been watching this thread and waiting for my number to come up.
Anyway, here's mine. Anyone know why he's holding up 7 fingers? I see on the back it says he has 7 kids... |
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With little, or next to nothing, written about print runs, it's highly unlikely we'll ever know what the black to red back printing ratio ever was? Like what I wrote above, I think, once upon a time, that black backs were slightly more expensive/viewed as more rare, but through the years, as more info likely came forward, that is no longer the case?
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I read that he had just had his seventh child when the picture was taken.
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Supposedly Jansen's arm was shot in his mid 30s after a few great seasons (over a five year period), but I'm wondering if his legs gave out instead w/ all those reproductive bedroom appearances
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Beautiful example!
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1952 Topps -- #6
Here is my copy.
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Grady.
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My red back Hatton. On the list to upgrade to a better centered copy.
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If I average my 2 out, they would be almost perfectly centered, at least on the fronts.
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Saving scan time by posting a black back and a red front of Grady Edgebert Hatton, Jr., as I'm sure his mother called him.
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Anyone have any 52 wrappers? Thought I'd add mine in now with Wayne as I'm not sure where it would actually fit in with this thread?
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Here you go. Irv And, a 1952 BOWMAN FootBall wrapper of the LARGE cards. TED Z T206 Reference . Last edited by tedzan; 01-19-2021 at 07:14 AM. Reason: Corrected typo. |
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On the subject of Wrappers, I noticed this came up in a prior thread, is there a reliable way to purchase them? I've heard that people make counterfeit wrappers as well, so I would love to purchase a legitimate one. I'd assume one of the big companies slabs them.
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Here is my RB Terwilliger and wrapper artwork I recreated to have something to store with my set. I'll eventually get the real thing but this will have to do for now.
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Nice wrappers, Ted, especially that 52!
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Two Twigs: red back and black front.
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Black left, red right.
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One of the oldest major leaguers still alive.
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Otis and Jay
You guys are the smart ones. I'd bet anyone, that you guys could go thru the entire 1st Series cards (80 pairs), and tell us which colors the backs are printed with, without flipping over the cards. . . . TED Z T206 Reference . |
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I'll start the day with the first Marsh cards.
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And my Fred Marsh.
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Would love to upgrade my Hogue if someone has a copy in better shape available.
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2-for-1 today since I'm playing catch-up, having missed #8 yesterday. So here are Marsh (red) and Hogue (black).
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Here are my 2. Both Black backs. The second one I purchased had top corner pulls which I didn't see when I purchased it.
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Is this from a display for the 1952 Topps cards or something else? Are there other cards with backs like this one?
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https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...a/7165-50832.s
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I have a 3 card, consecutively numbered, but cut panel I can post when we get to those cards. I think Anthony may have an uncut panel that I can ask him to post. I try for a Salesman Sample and unopened pack for each set. I think the Salesman Samples for Topps run 52-67
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