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save percentage means absolutely nothing if your team loses games. Nothing. Your team loses, you go nowhere and win nothing.... but hey, what a great save percentage! And "no one gave him (Thomas) a shot out of high school or college" Is that how it's supposed to work? Everyone is given a shot?? Its a BUSINESS, EARN your spot, there's no handouts or free rides. And your assumption regarding Bill Durnan is spurious to say the least, ridiculous at most. With your logic, Bobby Orr wouldn't have been able to do anything and would be useless with an old, solid one-piece stick like players used in the earlier days, or Tim Thomas wouldn't be able to stop a single puck wearing much smaller and heavier antiquated goaltending equipment. |
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Rangers and Flyers at Madison Square Garden in 1980 Go Rangers!
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When hockey was hockey...man, the Garden ice was terrible for years.
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I was able to see the Canadians vs. Oilers at the Northlands Coliseum in 1984. Also the Rangers the same year.
My last game was the Trevor Linden jersey retirement game in Vancouver. |
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Started life as a Rangers fan in the end of Ratelle/Giacomin/Park transition to Davidson/Esposito years at the old Garden (still miss the chants and vague smell of weed drifting down from the Blue seats), but I did go to the first Devils game vs the Penguins. They managed a tie and it was fun hearing the fans coming out yelling that the Devils were in first place. Brendan Byrne Arena wasn’t bad but no Garden. I mostly remember the Devils being the slowest team on ice - couldn’t outrun the zamboni on a bet.
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Saw my first NHL game at the Aud in Buffalo against the Islanders. Richie Dunn scored the GWG against the Islanders on a shot from the point. He actually broke his stick on the play.
Sabres were having a fantastic season under our new coach/GM Scotty Bowman and were favorites to win the Stanley Cup. Little did I know at the time I was witnessing the start of a dynasty...... I attended 1 Sabre game with my father (he was in his early 70’s at the time). I won Tickets in the Oranges from a radio contest. When we arrived at our seats my father turned pale white and announced that he would watch the game from standing room only area. I didn’t realize he was afraid of heights. We watched the whole game from there. Game was against Chicago and Perreault scored on a Penalty shot in the 3rd period (back when there was only a few called every year). November 1983. Aud was a great place to watch a game. You were right on top of the action. |
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Throw the Stats out the window. Between 1994 and 1999 No goaltender meant more to his team than Hasek.
He played on a team that had a bargain basement budget. Virtually no offensive firepower at all. During the 96-97 season the Sabres were outshot in all but 2 games. In the 1998 Stanley Cup playoffs against the Flyers, I remember thinking to myself when the Flyers would apply pressure in the Sabres end "Why are they trying so hard, Hasek is only going to stop whatever they fire at the net." Brett Hull's goal in overtime in the 1999 Finals should not have been allowed. Shortly before he scored I remembered saying to myself. "Who is going to step up and score for the Sabres?" Hasek took a team with a 23 million dollar payroll to the finals against a team with a 33 million dollar payroll. The difference in salary was Hull,Nieuwendyk and Modano. Aside from Lafontaine (concussion) and Mogilny (traded) who were teammates early in Hasek's Sabre career Name one teammate (please don't mention Grant Fuhr) who would even be remotely considered for the Hockey Hall of Fame? |
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I would not know never played hockey on MSG ice. Only on pond ice and local indoor rinks
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I was one of those high school kids in between periods at the Coliseum in 1989. That ice was pretty good! I never skated on MSG either
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So if Patrick Roy played for the NY Islanders all his career he wouldn't be the greatest of all time because he never won a championship ? Funny, in baseball many say Ted Williams was the greatest of all time and he never won a championship. Baseball and hockey are team games. You can be great and still not win championships. Save percentage is mentioned by all the great commentators, from McKenzie to Don Cherry. It's a simple concept. A goalie sees a shot, has a breakaway on him, has a two on one, and he either is better than the shot takers, or he gets beat. Hasek, Dryden, Rask, Bishop, and Thomas were the best ever at stopping shots. Patrick Roy wasn't even in the Top 50. Roy is highly over rated. |
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Since your complete argument is going to cling to a single stat, let's apply that logic to players. If stopping the puck from going into the net is the be all end all for goaltenders, then surely putting the puck in the net is the only important stat for players.... So Bobby Orr wouldn't even rank in the top 50. "Orr is highly overated"... by YOUR criteria. https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/reco...e-leaders.html And no argument can be made that it's different because he's a defenseman, otherwise, all you could claim then is that Bobby Orr is the greatest DEFENSEMAN of all-time, but clearly not the best player. ....see how ridiculous it is to judge players by a single stat? So much for "It's a simple concept"..... Last edited by Huysmans; 04-25-2021 at 07:46 AM. |
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