Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?

[Cliff Bowman]

The one good thing about these threads is that they let you know which side of the aisle the responding members stand.

[Shoeless Moe]

"No point asking who's to blame
'cos if you're gonna die, if you're gonna die

If you're gonna die, die with your boots on
If you're gonna try, just stick around
Gonna cry, just move along
If you're gonna die, you're gonna die!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhBw80Y54gg

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

The one good thing about these threads is that they let you know which side of the aisle the responding members stand.

On a website dedicated to the discussion of cardboard, that is important ... why?

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

On a website dedicated to the discussion of cardboard, that is important ... why?

Because you are in a section of the site titled "off topic", there are plenty of cardboard conversations in the "on topic" sections

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Because you are in a section of the site titled "off topic", there are plenty of cardboard conversations in the "on topic" sections

Your response doesn't make sense to me.

Yes, this is the "off topic" section. But if you look at the where you click for this section, you will see this underneath:

"General Chat and off topic stuff. Please no politics or religion." [I've taken the liberty of bolding the pertinent portion.]

So when we're being politely asked not to discuss politics, why is Cliff's statement -

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

The one good thing about these threads is that they let you know which side of the aisle the responding members stand.

- even remotely defensible in this "off topic" section?

But more importantly, my initial question hasn't been answered by Cliff or you. In a more general sense, in either this section or in any of the sections of this forum -

Originally Posted by AustinMike

On a website dedicated to the discussion of cardboard, that is important ... why?

In any section of this forum, why would it be a "good thing" to "know which side of the aisle the responding members stand?"

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

Your response doesn't make sense to me.

Yes, this is the "off topic" section. But if you look at the where you click for this section, you will see this underneath:

"General Chat and off topic stuff. Please no politics or religion."

Then report Cliff for being political, and report me for being anti-organized religion.

That should solve your problem.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Then report Cliff for being political, and report me for being anti-organized religion.

That should solve your problem.

+1

[ALR-bishop]

I wish Doug and Cliff could solve my problem but since it is old age I am not hopeful

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Then report Cliff for being political, and report me for being anti-organized religion.

That should solve your problem.

Not at all. Where was I complaining about him being political? I never did.

I'm just trying to understand the "one good thing about these threads is that they let you know which side of the aisle the responding members stand." Why is it a good thing to know? What's the benefit?

You trying to change the subject to complaining about politics doesn't answer the question: What's the benefit of knowing "which side of the aisle the responding members stand?"

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

You trying to change the subject to complaining about politics doesn't answer the question: What's the benefit of knowing "which side of the aisle the responding members stand?"

Because generally speaking people on one side of the aisle live in a fantasy world and people on the other side of the aisle live in the real world.

Doug "like how I did that?" Goodman

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Then report Cliff for being political, and report me for being anti-organized religion.

That should solve your problem.

Jesus would never be caught playing shitty Slayer riffs....
Even HE has more taste.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

Jesus would never be caught playing shitty Slayer riffs....
Even HE has more taste.

Are you sure?

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

The one good thing about these threads is that they let you know which side of the aisle the responding members stand.

I can't hold that against them, nothing wrong with debate. I consider myself Fiscally conservative, but socially liberal. I don't think one side or the other is always right, and some may say it's a fool errand to think so.

These test group numbers are skewed. Demographics indicate N54 board members are in the high risk catagory for COVID mortality. This could be problematic for card shows. Nobody WANTS to get sick, and few believe in fate anymore.

Using 9/11 numbers by using COVID deaths makes sense to some people because they feel both are both foreign attacks on US soil. I just don't see how it relates at all. It seems like it is kind of trvializing 9/11.

I guess deaths are deaths in some people eyes. Just like people are people, regardless of how inspiring, health conscience, or contriubuting they are, or have been to society.

Ted "I cant tell if it's lack of Oxygen, or 30 years of sex drugs and roll and roll" Sherman

[egri]

I got mine because I figured I'd rather take my chances with the shot than with the virus (this is coming from someone who hates needles). I don't hold it against anyone who doesn't get the shot; there are a lot of question marks about it, and reasonable people can look at them and opt out.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

I can't hold that against them, nothing wrong with debate. I consider myself Fiscally conservative, but socially liberal. I don't think one side or the other is always right, and some may say it's a fool errand to think so.

These test group numbers are skewed. Demographics indicate N54 board members are in the high risk catagory for COVID mortality. This could be problematic for card shows. Nobody WANTS to get sick, and few believe in fate anymore.

Using 9/11 numbers by using COVID deaths makes sense to some people because they feel both are both foreign attacks on US soil. I just don't see how it relates at all. It seems like it is kind of trvializing 9/11.

I guess deaths are deaths in some people eyes. Just like people are people, regardless of how inspiring, health conscience, or contriubuting they are, or have been to society.

Ted "I cant tell if it's lack of Oxygen, or 30 years of sex drugs and roll and roll" Sherman

Well written. I didn't make the comparison of covid deaths to 9-11, but I understand it in that both killed a large number of Americans. To see that number continue to die weekly or monthly or whatever while people argue about putting on a simple mask while in close contact with strangers is demoralizing. Much like the early conversation where someone brought up WWII deaths.

And forgive me, but I think the loss of fat, old, and sick people are worth mourning, too.

[bnorth]

Got my second shot today.

[Frankish]

My wife got vaccinated at the first opportunity (she's a front line worker). I got my second vaccination last month. Can't wait until they have one ready for my kids.

Development of the vaccine was definitely an accelerated process. Of course, the increases in technology (particularly the computing power needed for advanced genomics) have been logarithmic over the past decades, since the country/world last made such a concerted, wholerhearted, and funded effort to develop a vaccine for an emergency.

Anyway, everyone must make their own decisions, but I get the feeling that a lot of the people waiting don't really understand the science behind these vaccines, which is understandable. Really a public service campaign to educate the public on how these vaccines work, how they were developed and tested, and the risks involved would do a great service to the country.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Got my second shot today.

I got the second shot on Tuesday and holy BLEEP did I feel like crap all day yesterday. Would do it again.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I got the second shot on Tuesday and holy BLEEP did I feel like crap all day yesterday. Would do it again.

I went into town last week and had lunch (Taco Bell) and got the first shot (Moderna.) The only side effect was that I seemed to be gassy the rest of the day.

[DJCollector1]

Originally Posted by Mark17

I went into town last week and had lunch (Taco Bell) and got the first shot (Moderna.) The only side effect was that I seemed to be gassy the rest of the day.

In the old Sesame Street tones.............. "One of these things.... is NOT like the others".


On a more related note : I have had a load of people close to me get vaccinated. The vast majority reported little or no issues. A few did, but it was certainly nothing major.
Personally, I will NOT be getting the vaccine. I may rethink it in 4-5 months though, after some time has elapsed and we have more information under our belts.

I have had Covid TWO TIMES now, yep I'm one of the lucky few. (On my most recent - I was told point blank, cases have been decreasing, this makes no sense..... you don't even really have any symptoms other than a bad dry headache. We can only speculate you caught a newer strain, but we would never know for sure unless we thoroughly tested your sample")

I just got over the second bout a few months back and 2 separate doctors told me "You would be a fool to get vaccinated now, wait 6 or so months, when everyone else's begin to wear down. Then you will be smart to get it."

I'll say this. My doctor told me this when I got it the first time, which was March of last year. Also realize at that time, its right when the virus paranoia was at an all time high. They said possibly millions would ultimately die.
My Doctor told me point blank........."Do NOT come in, you are 49, basically healthy and will get over it."

That kind of told me right then and there exactly how "deadly" this is for the general population.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Using 9/11 numbers by using COVID deaths makes sense to some people because they feel both are both foreign attacks on US soil. I just don't see how it relates at all. It seems like it is kind of trivializing 9/11.

I would point out that I was using 10% of covid death numbers, so in actuality I was trivializing covid.

I guess deaths are deaths in some people eyes. Just like people are people, regardless of how inspiring, health conscience, or contributing they are, or have been to society.

Ted "I cant tell if it's lack of Oxygen, or 30 years of sex drugs and roll and roll" Sherman

Yes, I am a person you thinks that dying is a bad thing even for those who have been deemed to not be inspiring enough or contributed enough to society, because I like to think that those people might have done good things that I am unaware of.

Doug "it's been 37 years" Goodman