Ken Goldin Video on State of the Hobby

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why would wealthy, successful, presumably sophisticated businessmen pay sums for a card completely out of line with historical values and indeed any value to date? The card isn't even close to rare even in a 10, what were they thinking, or maybe in context it was chump change and they didn't care? It does seem a lot of people leave their senses and sophistication and critical thinking behind when it comes to cards.

I think it could be as easy as some billionaires son seeing an MJ rookie on TikToc or something and telling the dad to buy it. Or any of a million other scenarios where folks who are smart don't make great decisions sometimes.
There are a lot of people with a lot of money nowadays, I just wish I was one of them. I think some gamblers gambled and lost and some made money. Not my gig....but to each their own.

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[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think it could be as easy as some billionaires son seeing an MJ rookie on TikToc or something and telling the dad to buy it. Or any of a million other scenarios where folks who are smart don't make great decisions sometimes.
There are a lot of people with a lot of money nowadays, I just wish I was one of them. I think some gamblers gambled and lost and some made money. Not my gig....but to each their own.

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TWO billionaires and they both just happened to settle on the same way out of whack price? Sure.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Tabe

TWO billionaires and they both just happened to settle on the same way out of whack price? Sure.

There have been so many confirmed shenanigans and lies in this hobby that I think we're conditioned to being skeptical of almost anything almost anyone says.

[Hankphenom]

Omg, that video.

[joed25]

I just watched the whole video. I think Ken is fantastic. Very good for the hobby. Looking forward to the TV show.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by joed25

I just watched the whole video. I think Ken is fantastic. Very good for the hobby. Looking forward to the TV show.

I actually agree with this sentiment, although like so many others here none of this has anything to do with me. But it will come down to whether Ken Goldin ("...Ken Goldin, look at them cards that he holdin"--oh, no, it's the dreaded earworm!) is playing it straight, like Mr. Mint apparently did, or is manipulating the market like some other well-known former hobby icons. Every endeavor needs some colorful characters to give it some spice, and I wish Ken Goldin ("...Ken Goldin, look at...--oh, no, not again!!!!) all the success he can create for himself as long as he doesn't end up bringing another black eye to the hobby like so many of his predecessors from the P.T. Barnum school of marketing.

[ullmandds]

in the ken goldin rap...who is "rick" that is referred to?

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

in the ken goldin rap...who is "rick" that is referred to?

The rap mentions Rick (Probstein) & Brent (Huegins) a few times

[jerseygary]

Originally Posted by joed25

I just watched the whole video. I think Ken is fantastic. Very good for the hobby. Looking forward to the TV show.

I think you're referring the Bloomberg video from last week, right?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/video...et-class-video

I thought it was a great piece that goes over both vintage and modern cards and memorabilia, and how Ken started as a kid and eventually wound up running a massive auction house. While there's the money talk, it also shows how he enjoys the hobby and collecting (he says his prize piece is a Babe Ruth game used bat). He also tries to get the next generation interested in cards with the set breaks he does with his 7-year-old son on Instagram and other social media

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There have been so many confirmed shenanigans and lies in this hobby that I think we're conditioned to being skeptical of almost anything almost anyone says.

Well, when the words are coming from a guy who literally told me he didn't care items in his first auction were bootlegs, yeah, I'm gonna be skeptical.

[troutbum97]

Any Net 54 members bidding heavy on this live stream box break?

WTF -

https://goldinauctions.com/1996_97_T...LOT101818.aspx