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By contrast to the relatively common Ruth signed ball and common Goudey card...signed Ruth Goudeys are quite difficult. There's likely less than 50. PSA has somewhere around 30 graded.
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One of my wish list/ bucket list an autographed Ruth playing day card. Someday
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I very am glad that I got this one years ago as I have a feeling the next one on the auction block is going to be pretty costly.
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i wish I got one of these when I could!!!! Beautiful example!
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I should probably know but don’t - what is that exactly? Amazing.
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As said before, demand definitely outweights supply when it comes to the Babe. I think some are overestimating how many cards are out there. Only the Goudey 144 has over 1000 in the pop report. Throw in others graded by other TPG's and the number of raw still out there, I just don't think it's as many as some people think.
The other thing I think people sometimes forget when talking about the number of something in existence is the number that exist that are actually on the open market. Way more people that own them and have no intention of selling anytime soon than people who are willing to sell them. For anyone that has tried winning a Babe Ruth card at auction in the last couple of years, it's not that easy. |
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That's gorgeous, sir! 1920, yes? Who is the mourning band on the sleeve for?
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Slightly OT, but I wonder how many signed Ruth cards are extant. The only ones I can think of are 1933/1935 Goudeys.
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Going to answer a few posts at once here.
Thanks Pete! The black arm band was for Ray Chapman. This is the 1920 Pathe Freres Babe Ruth premium, which was issued with this record: https://www.oldcardboard.com//eNews/...eNews157.htm#2 https://www.oldcardboard.com/o/h/pat...cardsetID=1415 You can hear the record (which is not Babe's voice) on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHFDM_oBRLs&t=40s
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Very Nice items
Especially Love the Bambino Tobacco Canister
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So many great cards and photos and autographs in this thread. And so many great insights. I've really enjoyed following it.
It's funny...relative to the card market in general (and that's a big relative), I think Ruth stuff is pretty reasonable and some of it even underpriced. Quote:
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A few Ruth photos I don't see every day (although admittedly, my photos probably aren't much to a serious collector). From 1923, 1927 and 1927.
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Those Babes I no longer own:
1932 Sanella Margarine Babe Ruth SGC-80.jpg1928 W502 #6- BABE RUTH Sold for 2605 on 12-13-19.jpg 1934 Goudey #149- BABE RUTH Sold for 6872 on 12-13-19.jpg1928 Harringtons Ice Cream BABE RUTH BST 5000 Jan 20.jpg 1933 Goudey 144- BABE RUTH SGC-70 BST 16000.jpg1948 Leaf BABE RUTH PSA-5 BST 3700.jpg And Those Babes I've kept: Babes.jpg BABE RUTH Single-Signed 4x5 Photo.jpg
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Jamie, did you just get the Ruth card, or did you get the viewer and all the other cards that come with the viewer?
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Not much else to say, just wanted to toss in another card of the Big Fella:
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Last night in Sterling:
1933 Goudey #144 SGC 50 $16,800 1926 Exhibit PSA 2 $6,600 1948 Leaf SGC 50 $5,400 1922 E121-120 w/bird SGC 10 $2,640 As an aside, and maybe it is coincidental, but there were virtually prewar superstar cards in the auction. Cobb had one (a mutilated T205), Mathewson had nothing, Gehrig had nothing, Johnson had one card, Young had two cards, Wagner had none
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I guess for me, it's the 48 Leaf. Not even a playing days card of Ruth!
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The 26 exhibit is a low pop card. The same image is used in other exhibit year cards but the 26 one is tough so that may be why. But still was a strong price on the exhibit! I consigned the e121-120, was happy with result. I recently upgraded my bird one to a grade 3
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Yeah the 48 Ruth still boggles my mind a little bit… The psychology of collecting it’s certainly interesting! I never would have guessed that Sanela ruths would be worth as much as they are now? And then we’ve got the tharp/Harrington like issues where are the prices escalated partially due to the old Red Sox pitching pose over 10 years old at that point. But I think now rarity has justified the values. International issues are interesting as some have become popular and valuable whereas others have not? Also issues like fro joy… which are super scarce and relatively easily discerned from fake if you put in the time to learn? |
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It's funny you mention Sanella, I can't believe how much some of the high grade ones pull now! I think at one point I had 5 or 6 Sanellas. I now have one Sanella, raw, in the book and have 2 ASTRA variations which seem incredibly overlooked in comparison to Sanella. I bought a raw ASTRA that I got graded a PSA1 (hammered due to waviness but looks great) and I picked up an SGC 7 ASTRA , which i think I got at a great price. I forget graded pop ratio but I think it may be somewhere around 30-50X , maybe more?, Sanella (all variations combined) vs the ASTRA, and price has not caught up at all! I think Sanella is a great entry Ruth card and maybe many are just not familiar with the ASTRA back. Yea, the prices on Tharps/Harringtons have been much stronger recently. Partially due to pose I guess but also the 20's black and white issues maybe getting more love.
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Astra's are really really tough. Took years to get one of Schmeling-Sharkey for my type collection.
One thing is for sure: when it comes to Ruth there are fewer and fewer career-contemporary issues that are available under four figures in any condition other than shredded "A". I suspect the same will be true of Cobb, Gehrig, Young, Johnson and a few others before too long. As for Ruth, IMO even at the hammer last night that '26 was a good purchase for the long term. The 33 Goudey is practically untouchable by mere mortal collectors at this point, so interest is going to shift to other issues even more than it already has.
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Agreed That Exhibit went for strong dollars.
More than I would have been willing to go but obviously some one was willing to
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Not a single person that collects today (to my knowledge at least) was alive during Cobb's tenure as a player. The market that his cards appeals to are people of all ages enamored with the history of the game.
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My only Ruth photo.
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Don't have too much experience with her comedy outside of the Dean Martin Roasts!
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Here's an interesting thought. Of all these all-time Mount Rushmore level greats, they all are publicized and have been portrayed in modern times by movies. Gary Cooper has played Gehrig, William Bendix and John Goodman have been Ruth (along with Ruth playing himself), Tommy Lee Jones has portrayed Cobb, and even Joe Jackson has gotten modern day exposure from being portrayed in Field of Dreams and Eight Men Out. But what about Honus Wagner? I'm not aware of any movies or other shows that portrayed him and told his story, yet he is up there as one of the all- time greats. Can it truly be the legend/myth surrounding his T206 card that drives so much of the popularity and value in the other card issues he appears in?
And getting back to Ruth, as I think about it, he seems to have been portrayed in/the subject of more movies than any player in history. Heck, a signed baseball by him was the central theme of an entire movie - Sandlot. So that right there kind of tells of his level of popularity versus everyone else as well. |
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Good point. Forgot about the Cobb movie. A Roy Hobbs rookie would fetch huge money I would think but would he be listed as a pitcher or an outfielder?
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Since the thread is a lot of Ruth and Cobb I wanted to post this link. It’s worth a few minutes. Durocher talks his experiences with Cobb, Ruth, and Mays.
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The problem with the portrayal of 'The Babe' in movies is does anyone ever let their guard down far enough to actually believe the actor is Babe Ruth?? No frickin' way. They always find the fattest actor around, load him up with makeup and/or prosthetics and then pretend this completely out of shape board treader is the most famously skilled ballplayer of all time, when we wouldn't even choose him for a backyard Wiffle Ball game. Yeah right!
Although not stated directly (IIRC), this guy is supposed to be Babe Ruth in "The Catcher Was A Spy." He's like a four foot tall meatball. Come on, Hollywood!!! thecatcherwasaspyruth.jpg
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Oh, and that reminds me of another thing touting Ruth's universal popularity and appeal. Swell actually created an entire card set to go along with and help promote the movie starring Bendix. Until the start of the junk wax era of the 80s-90s, the only similar player I can remember ever having an entire card set of more than just a handful of cards dedicated solely to them would be the 1959 Fleer Ted Williams set. And I think that wasn't so much that Fleer wanted to do a set just for Williams, but more because Topps had pretty much everyone else under exclusive contract back then. Last edited by BobC; 09-24-2021 at 07:39 PM. |
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You need an actor that excels at playing a charismatic strong and silent type, one that only speaks when they need to IMO.
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Yeah, the amount of Babe Ruth cards i saw as a kid at card shows was stunning and they were always waaaay out of my reach - something i thought of as almost an entirely different scale of collecting. We use his name as a way of describing things that are truly larger than life. And now the prices are "Ruthian" unfortunately. I guess i always figured they would be slightly out of my reach - I did buy one a few years ago and wouldnt trade it for anything. Perhaps my favorite pose of any player.
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