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Old 01-10-2022, 11:59 AM
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I wish I did discover them, richtree posted the Smiley and Pasqua on page 22 of the CU thread nearly three years ago and I ran across the Lance Johnson listed on eBay about a year ago. I would say without a doubt that Jay Howell and Candy Maldonado were also affected and possibly more on the top row of the A* Blue Sheet, the other cards on the top row are Ramon Martinez, Ricky Jordan, Andre Dawson, Stan Javier, Benito Santiago, Mike Witt, and Todd Burns.
I pulled a few of the dark blue border blue cards from holiday factory sets around 2007-2008. The only one I can recall with clarity was Doug Drabek with the blackless portion over the team name on front, like the Smiley.

None of them had the full, missing black ink like the Lance Johnson, Speier, but more like how the Smiley looks with a bit of gradient/fog to it.

All of the blackless green borders I found came from random collections and lots purchased in the PNW, I never pulled any from sealed product, unfortunately.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/384672072649

far from an expert on these, but the bidding suggests this may be legit.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/384672072649

far from an expert on these, but the bidding suggests this may be legit.
Someone is going to be sad when they get that. Hopefully they figure out it is bad while they can still get their cash back.
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Someone is going to be sad when they get that. Hopefully they figure out it is bad while they can still get their cash back.
I am wary of any eBay seller who doesn't at least take the time and effort to crop out their bare feet in the pics .
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Send seller a question asking if the auction includes everything shown in the pictures
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Anybody got iron-clad proof of these coming out of packs?

Or just more highly doubtful stories?
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Anybody got iron-clad proof of these coming out of packs?

Or just more highly doubtful stories?
The blackless cards and NNOF? There are dozens of first hand accounts of these coming out of packs on the internet. Not to mention a few Youtube and Facebook Live videos. If you don't believe this, what is your alternative theory and what is it based on?
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The blackless cards and NNOF? There are dozens of first hand accounts of these coming out of packs on the internet. Not to mention a few Youtube and Facebook Live videos. If you don't believe this, what is your alternative theory and what is it based on?
In the "old days" (well before the tsunami of covid flipper-collectors), these folks used to pop out every so often with this question, seeding this "just curious" doubt around boards and shows and almost always, they'd eventually reveal that they are sitting on factory sets and/or pushing that they come from factory sets.

Same would apply to the George Bush cards.
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