Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Irv, the Kid came out a song today, believe you might enjoy it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyFnLqJx-uU

LOL, good for Kid Rock. Maybe he can be relevant again for a short time.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Read some real science by real scientists not the fear mongering contrarian ignorant out of context soundbite bullshit.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/new...vaccines-safe/

[irv]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Irv, the Kid came out a song today, believe you might enjoy it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyFnLqJx-uU

Good for Kid Rock.
I'm sure, like a lot of people can, he sees the control and power that "they" want so bad over the people. Liberalism is a disease and there is no more corrupt, crooked and evil party than them.

Originally Posted by tschock

I didn't check the link, but I didn't need to. I could have told you that people under 18 (and even under 30) didn't need the vaccine within 9 months after Covid started, based solely on the numbers in the CDC's own website.

Exactly, but because people are too lazy and lack critical thinking skills to look into things on their own, they just park their asses in front of their funded by Pfizer T.V. screens and think what is being spewed to them is factual, true and unbiased. Like I said before, it's not hard to see what party is pushing the vaccines, mandates and passports onto the people, (control) but, of course, they don't think anything of it because they've all been brainwashed into believing they need the vaccines or they are going to die.
This is right from our govt's own website. Like you, I wish someone could point out where it reads it is imperative to get our children vaccinated, let alone anyone healthy??
" Healthy young adults, adolescents and children who contracted the virus have been the least likely to develop severe complications from COVID-19, including death. In fact, 100% of the COVID-involved deaths of Canadians under the age of 45 as of July 31 had at least one other disease or condition certified on the medical certificate of death. The proportion of those with at least one other disease or condition decreases with age, ranging from 93% for those aged 45 to 64 to 89% for those aged 85 years or older"
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/.../00087-eng.htm

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Read some real science by real scientists not the fear mongering contrarian ignorant out of context soundbite bullshit.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/new...vaccines-safe/

Steven Novella, seriously, Peter? Is he, a neurologist, a go to for all medical advice for you? His opinion/take on things is gospel to you?
Nothing to say about the released Pfizer data that they wanted to keep hidden from you for 75 years? Nothing reeks like trust the science that we're going to keep the data hidden from you for 75 yrs.
It's simply mindboggling, especially with all the info out now, that some are still defending these vaccines and believe they actually worked.
Still no long term side affect info yet either but still, to some, these vaccines are a godsend.
The number of cases in the fully vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated are so high now they've quit reporting them. At least they are still showing the numbers in the hospital and ICU's, but I have heard numerous times now, from reliable sources, they do everything in their power to skew the numbers down in those that are fully vaccinated in the hospital and ICU.
https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/152091

[Peter_Spaeth]

Did you read the underlying study and data Dale, or do you only do soundbites not studies? "They" do everything in "their" power. LOL And you still don't have even a basic understanding of the statistics and what they show, after it's been explained to you ad nauseum for months.

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by irv

Liberalism is a disease and there is no more corrupt, crooked and evil party than them.

How is this not political?

[AustinMike]

And now, for something completely different:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2OwmhnymdY

Be sure to stay for the disclaimer at the end.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

How is this not political?

You are 100% correct and have a very valid point.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, good for Kid Rock. Maybe he can be relevant again for a short time.

You mean another 30 years.....yah i guess in the history of mankind that could be considered short.

Not a bad run for a punk from Detroit.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

You mean another 30 years.....yah i guess in the history of mankind that could be considered short.

Not a bad run for a punk from Detroit.

He has done WAY better than I thought. I kinda remember him from the late 90s. More for Pam Anderson than his music.

Dale how long have you felt/known that certain people wanted to take over the planet? Do you have other non traditional beliefs? If you have had these beliefs for several years have any taken place that changed how things happen long term?

It could also be a difference in perspective. Almost everything you call control I
see as an advancement for our society.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Did you read the underlying study and data Dale, or do you only do soundbites not studies? "They" do everything in "their" power. LOL And you still don't have even a basic understanding of the statistics and what they show, after it's been explained to you ad nauseum for months.

Speaking of ad nauseum. Despite what has been presented to you, all the flip flopping, the moving of goalposts, the back peddling, the lies, the censorship, you still don't get it.
Boost away, Peter.

Originally Posted by bnorth

He has done WAY better than I thought. I kinda remember him from the late 90s. More for Pam Anderson than his music.

Dale how long have you felt/known that certain people wanted to take over the planet? Do you have other non traditional beliefs? If you have had these beliefs for several years have any taken place that changed how things happen long term?

It could also be a difference in perspective. Almost everything you call control I
see as an advancement for our society.

Ben, did you even take 5 minutes to look into/watch/read any of those things I posted or are you so knowledgeable and so cemented in your beliefs, you refuse to?
You're suggesting they are my very own thoughts, my own conspiracy theories like I made them up myself and I'm the only one who believes them.

Use Gooogle, duckduckgo, and read up on it. They are not hidden. Klaus Schwab, the head of WEF, even has his own vids talking openly about the things he wants to do.
Read the comments below the vid. I didn't write them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJTnkzl3K64

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by irv

Ben, did you even take 5 minutes to look into/watch/read any of those things I posted or are you so knowledgeable and so cemented in your beliefs, you refuse to?
You're suggesting they are my very own thoughts, my own conspiracy theories like I made them up myself and I'm the only one who believes them.

Use Gooogle, duckduckgo, and read up on it. They are not hidden. Klaus Schwab, the head of WEF, even has his own vids talking openly about the things he wants to do.
Read the comments below the vid. I didn't write them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJTnkzl3K64

Honestly Dale I don't read any links in these beyond silly threads. We including me are just WAY too biased to be taken seriously.

I do enjoy the topics of conspiracy theories, paranormal, psychics, and the like. I find it extremely interesting on why people believe in such things and how long they have had those beliefs.

[irv]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Honestly Dale I don't read any links in these beyond silly threads. We including me are just WAY too biased to be taken seriously.

I do enjoy the topics of conspiracy theories, paranormal, psychics, and the like. I find it extremely interesting on why people believe in such things and how long they have had those beliefs.

So, you just like throwing out insults and calling people conspiracy theorists without actually having anything to back up those innuendos just for something to do then, Ben?

I don't know about anyone else, but I find your behavior odd.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by irv

So, you just like throwing out insults and calling people conspiracy theorists without actually having anything to back up those innuendos just for something to do then, Ben?

I don't know about anyone else, but I find your behavior odd.

Dale you are the one calling your self names and have done it in several posts.

I have said my beliefs on Covid and the vaccine many times. Covid has killed several of my friends and has caused long term health problems for others including my brother. I am all for the vaccine and booster shots for those that want them. Pretty simple and consistent.

I didn't realize being called a conspiracy theorist was name calling. I used that term because of your posts about control, new world order, and similar posts about many different conspiracies.

I find the FACT you completely ignore every ones questions. Then just add more links from people I can't even fathom considering a legit source as extremely odd behavior.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Dale, I don't disagree there's been a lot of inconsistency and sometimes bad messaging and policy from the government and political side. The reason I like and trust sites like sciencebasedmedicine, which I've read for many years, is that in my opinion the people there are not only brilliant and highly analytical but are agnostic and data-driven.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by bnorth

It could also be a difference in perspective. Almost everything you call control I see as an advancement for our society.

You don't find a forced vaccine mandate as controlling? The Supreme Court seemed to think so.

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

You don't find a forced vaccine mandate as controlling? The Supreme Court seemed to think so.

So schools can no longer force kids to have certain vaccines to attend? Washington was wrong to force his soldiers to get the smallpox vaccine?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

So schools can no longer force kids to have certain vaccines to attend? Washington was wrong to force his soldiers to get the smallpox vaccine?

I've read that about Washington but I've also read that Jenner didn't invent the vaccine until 1796. Haven't tried to reconcile this.

In any event, I have no doubt that there are people today who, if transported back in time, would claim that smallpox was a hoax. Fake news!! A nothingburger!!

[todeen]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

So schools can no longer force kids to have certain vaccines to attend? Washington was wrong to force his soldiers to get the smallpox vaccine?

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I've read that about Washington but I've also read that Jenner didn't invent the vaccine until 1796. Haven't tried to reconcile this.

In any event, I have no doubt that there are people today who, if transported back in time, would claim that smallpox was a hoax. Fake news!! A nothingburger!!

Just like climate change is slowly destroying our culture, disease ignorance isn't far behind with rolling pandemics every other generation.

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[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I've read that about Washington but I've also read that Jenner didn't invent the vaccine until 1796. Haven't tried to reconcile this.

In any event, I have no doubt that there are people today who, if transported back in time, would claim that smallpox was a hoax. Fake news!! A nothingburger!!

Interesting, I didn't know that about Jenner and the vaccine. A quick Google search reveals the reason for the disconnect.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ar/5456106001/

"Washington issued the order to have all troops inoculated on Feb. 5, 1777, in a letter to John Hancock, who was president of the Second Continental Congress. In another letter, Washington ordered all recruits arriving in Philadelphia be inoculated."

"Back then, the inoculation process was called variolation, named after the virus that causes smallpox — the variola virus.

"It involved exposing people to the virus by scratching material from smallpox sores into their arms or having them inhale it, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"Variolation was eventually replaced by vaccination after an English doctor named Edward Jenner noticed in 1796 that milkmaids who had gotten cowpox were immune to smallpox, according to the CDC. He guessed that exposure to cowpox could be used to protect people against smallpox and developed a vaccine."

Unfortunately you are correct. I also don't "doubt that there are people today who, if transported back in time, would claim that smallpox was a hoax." But on the one hand, I take some comfort in knowing that if they were transported back in time, they wouldn't be able to get on the Internet to find like minded "dingleberries" to support their delusions. But on the other hand, I think they would fit right in with folks of the time:

https://historycollection.com/10-tru...aughing-night/

Blowing Smoke Up the Ass, and the Healing Properties of Tobacco

"The harmful effects of tobacco are well known and understood nowadays in most of the world. However, there was a time in history when not only were tobacco’s ills unknown, but tobacco was actually considered healthy and good for you. Centuries ago, tobacco was lauded as a cure for many ailments, not only by quacks and charlatans, but also by respected members of the mainstream medical establishment.

"Tobacco was introduced to Europe by the Spanish, circa 1528. From early on, it was described as a “sacred herb” because of its supposed medicinal properties, as claimed by various Native Americans. Before long, European medical practitioners were treating the newly introduced plant as a miracle cure for sundry ailments, from headaches and colds to cancer.

"Today, when somebody scoffs at another that “you’re just blowing smoke up my ass“, it is a figure of speech to mean that he is insincerely complementing the scoffer, telling him what he thinks he wants to hear. However, centuries ago, blowing smoke up the ass was meant literally, to describe a medical procedure in which a tube or rubber hose was inserted in a person’s rectum, through which tobacco smoke would be blown.

"In the 1700s, doctors routinely used tobacco smoke enemas, in the mistaken belief that they had healing properties. Blowing smoke up the ass was thought to be particularly useful in reviving drowning victims. The nicotine in the tobacco was thought to make the heart beat faster, thus stimulating respiration, while smoke from the burning tobacco was thought to warm the drowning victim from the inside. It made intuitive sense: the drowned person was full of water, so blowing air, in the form of tobacco smoke which was full of healing properties, would expel the water.

"Hiccup was that the water was in the person’s lungs, which are not connected to his or her ass. Thus, blowing air up the drowning victims’ butts and into their bowels would do little to expel water from their lungs. Although some doctors preferred sticking the tube directly into the lungs through the mouth or nose, most preferred to shove it up the patient’s butt, instead.

"Although medically useless, belief in the efficacy of tobacco smoke enemas in reviving drowning victims, or even those presumed dead, was widespread. So widespread, that medical kits for blowing smoke up the ass were found at routine intervals along major waterways, such as the River Thames. There they waited, like modern defibrillators, ready for use to revive the drowned and bring the (presumed) dead back to life.

"Blowing smoke up the ass was eventually used to not only revive the drowned, but to also treat colds, headaches, hernias, abdominal cramps, and even heart attack victims. Tobacco smoke enemas were also used on typhoid fever victims, and those dying of cholera. While the treatment was useless for the patient, it could be quite dangerous for the medical practitioner, particularly if he was blowing the smoke with his mouth instead of using a bellows. Should the doctor inhale instead of exhale, or if gases in the patient’s bowels escaped (i.e.; if the patient farted) fecal particles could get blown back into the doctor’s mouth or inhaled into his lungs. Such a mishap, particularly when treating a cholera patient, could prove fatal for the doctor."

Move over Ivermectin, I see another cure for covid on the horizon.