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Old 03-22-2022, 10:47 AM
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Their bigger sin is photoshopping wrinkles out of cards, I can forgive dumbass descriptions cuz lazy but photoshopping is an overt action.
I realize they are an advertiser but would like to add, they use a very large type scanner, and from personal experience, wrinkles can be hard if not impossible, to see on some items. I would have a hard time believing anyone there intentionally photo-shopped out wrinkles. Unless you have proof that is a pretty reckless statement.
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Why write anything about a graded high value card? I mean does anyone who would bid on a 1952 Topps Mantle not know who Mantle was, not know what the card is, not know what the slab says, etc.? I'd rather see straightforward descriptions of the flaws on the card that make for the grade, without the extraneous blather. Instead of filling half a page with mindless drivel, use the extra space for larger pictures.

ETA: on the opposite end is the auctioneer who makes a real effort to explain the context of a rare card. For example, I read elsewhere in here that REA is going to get the R340 Tilden that was recently discovered. That card could use a detailed factual recitation on the history of the issue because it is so rare and so misunderstood.
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Why write anything about a graded high value card? I mean does anyone who would bid on a 1952 Topps Mantle not know who Mantle was, not know what the card is, not know what the slab says, etc.? I'd rather see straightforward descriptions of the flaws on the card that make for the grade, without the extraneous blather. Instead of filling half a page with mindless drivel, use the extra space for larger pictures.

ETA: on the opposite end is the auctioneer who makes a real effort to explain the context of a rare card. For example, I read elsewhere in here that REA is going to get the R340 Tilden that was recently discovered. That card could use a detailed factual recitation on the history of the issue because it is so rare and so misunderstood.
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When looking at items from a Hall of Fame player, it's so annoying to have to slog through all the "clever" paragraphs detailing the guy's fantastic career.

I want details about the item. I know about the player.
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I realize they are an advertiser but would like to add, they use a very large type scanner, and from personal experience, wrinkles can be hard if not impossible, to see on some items. I would have a hard time believing anyone there intentionally photo-shopped out wrinkles. Unless you have proof that is a pretty reckless statement.
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There was a thread here talking about this very thing, I'll see if I can find it, but a long time member picked up a T206 at their auction and posted the Heritage photo and his scan when he received it. The difference was sobering and the consensus was that it had more work done than an aging Texas trophy wife. I understand scanners can be unreliable but the difference certainly looked like more than scanner error.
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There was a thread here talking about this very thing, I'll see if I can find it, but a long time member picked up a T206 at their auction and posted the Heritage photo and his scan when he received it. The difference was sobering and the consensus was that it had more work done than an aging Texas trophy wife. I understand scanners can be unreliable but the difference certainly looked like more than scanner error.
I think I remember the thread, but regardless of what was shown or said, I still have a very hard time believing they knowingly covered up wrinkles to make the card look better. I guess I know the main guys over there too well. They just wouldn't do it. It would be stupid and they aren't that.
Could someone have roguishly done it? Possibly but I doubt it.
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Most auction houses do a pretty good job with the descriptions. The main issue is that someone should proof read them to ensure they are accurate and match the pieces. Especially as the values of many of these cards are spiking as well as a good history and description is needed for all the "new Money" and new collectors coming in.
They may know the players they are buying or not but may not know the difference in the rarity of 1 ie Mantle Card vs another Mantle Card
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I think I remember the thread, but regardless of what was shown or said, I still have a very hard time believing they knowingly covered up wrinkles to make the card look better. I guess I know the main guys over there too well. They just wouldn't do it. It would be stupid and they aren't that.
Could someone have roguishly done it? Possibly but I doubt it.
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I vaguely recall a thread too. Speaking of their scans, not sure any house puts up larger ones.
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I think I remember the thread, but regardless of what was shown or said, I still have a very hard time believing they knowingly covered up wrinkles to make the card look better. I guess I know the main guys over there too well. They just wouldn't do it. It would be stupid and they aren't that.
Could someone have roguishly done it? Possibly but I doubt it.
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Here's the thread.
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Thank you for posting that thread. People need to see it.
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And here is a graded T3 Dahlen that I won at Heritage last year. The images speak for themselves.

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To me if I’m going to bid a lot of money on an item in an auction house, I have done this several times, it’s best that you go set up an appointment to view yourself in person. That’s the best way to guarantee what you’re seeing is what you’re getting. Sometimes I just think scanners take lighter or darker scans.

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