Gun ownership poll

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by Carter08

They will “all say they feel safer with their teachers with guns”? Um no. There’s a reason the vast majority of parents whose kids have been gunned down call for sensible restrictions on access to guns than they do for weaponized teachers. This is an issue where it may be better if older people without actual kids in the schools have less of a say in the matter.

- I'm not entirely sure these people are in the right state of mind to make sound, educated, emotionless decisions. Maybe we should let these families grieve instead of constantly throwing them in front of the media.

- You mean people who came from a more respectful society should have less say in a matter that encompasses respect - for firearms, for each other, for themselves?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

- I'm not entirely sure these people are in the right state of mind to make sound, educated, emotionless decisions. Maybe we should let these families grieve instead of constantly throwing them in front of the media.

- You mean people who came from a more respectful society should have less say in a matter that encompasses respect - for firearms, for each other, for themselves?

More respectful? Where does that judgment come from? I’m not saying whether I agree or disagree but there are many that would disagree and thank the fact that we have tried to evolve from some pretty bad ways of treating each other in the past. Seems like a pretty big take to have - wondering what is your basis for saying it.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by Carter08

More respectful? Where does that judgment come from? I’m not saying whether I agree or disagree but there are many that would disagree and thank the fact that we have tried to evolve from some pretty bad ways of treating each other in the past. Seems like a pretty big take to have - wondering what is your basis for saying it.

I'm not saying previous generations were/are perfect. There is a very fine balance between traditional and progressive. Parents actually parented back in the day. There was respect for life - not just one's own life, but others' lives as well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-suspect.html

Modern "progressive" is regression in disguise in many ways.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

I'm not saying previous generations were/are perfect. There is a very fine balance between traditional and progressive. Parents actually parented back in the day. There was respect for life - not just one's own life, but others' lives as well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-suspect.html

Modern "progressive" is regression in disguise in many ways.

Parents don’t parent in this day?

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Parents don’t parent in this day?

How could they? Many, MANY households are two income households, meaning kids are being shipped off to daycares and schools to be taught by strangers. Many other households are victims of victimless crimes & BS drug crimes locking one of the parents away, taking them from the home.

NYC has a massive youth criminal/gang problem. Chicago is just about the worst gun violence community around, many of which involve teens/young adults. These are some of the strictest gun control areas in the country, yet combine for the majority of gun violence in this country. 4th of July weekend saw dozens upon dozens of people shot. Do you think the parents are around in those communities, teaching respect, etc.?

Social Media is killing society. Kids see "trends" and don't give a damn who they harm as long as they get views & "clout". Music, TV, Movies, etc., are filled with trash lifestyles being idolized.

And both parents are probably working while this happens, or one of them is in jail for a BS reason. Then they and others wonder why little Johnny turns to crack, heroine, etc., goes through mental health issues, and shoots up a school or someone else.

But you keep focusing on the guns, because to you and some others, that's the problem.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

How could they? Many, MANY households are two income households, meaning kids are being shipped off to daycares and schools to be taught by strangers. Many other households are victims of victimless crimes & BS drug crimes locking one of the parents away, taking them from the home.

NYC has a massive youth criminal/gang problem. Chicago is just about the worst gun violence community around, many of which involve teens/young adults. These are some of the strictest gun control areas in the country, yet combine for the majority of gun violence in this country. 4th of July weekend saw dozens upon dozens of people shot. Do you think the parents are around in those communities, teaching respect, etc.?

Social Media is killing society. Kids see "trends" and don't give a damn who they harm as long as they get views & "clout". Music, TV, Movies, etc., are filled with trash lifestyles being idolized.

And both parents are probably working while this happens, or one of them is in jail for a BS reason. Then they and others wonder why little Johnny turns to crack, heroine, etc., goes through mental health issues, and shoots up a school or someone else.

But you keep focusing on the guns, because to you and some others, that's the problem.

Not focusing just on the gun. They are never to blame. The issue is whether certain restrictions will help give us a better society. Your post seems to look at the past in rose colored glasses. It also seems to blame single parents and kids getting into crack and heroine. These are not the characteristics of majority of school shooters. Outdated thinking in my view.