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One point of difficulty is that the early reports and media reports are often wrong on the specific facts. Any scary looking long gun with plastic furniture is an AR-15, if the scary looking long gun has wood furniture it is an AK-47, if it is a handgun it is a Glock.
These terms are used because these guns are in common use (and for Glock, I think it largely has to do with the fact it rhymes well and easily in rap lyrics that have pushed into the mainstream), and because the people reporting them do not know anything, on a purely factual level, about firearms. Back when I used to watch the news before giving up on it, it happened frequently that the photographs shown of the incident would not match the news description. Nonetheless, it is likely that the AR-15 is used in a fairly significant amount of mass shootings wherein the criminal uses a long gun (which is a minority of mass shootings, rifles are not suited to stealth or surprise). This is not because it fires special or high-power bullets (it does the opposite). It is possible some people think it looks cool and edgy and that has influenced some. The same could be said of many guns of a similar aesthetic type, but it is possible. It seems to me it is most likely because it is, by far, the most common rifle in America. Honda Civics are involved in tons of accidents, not because they are difficult to steer or they are poorly made but because they are everywhere. Go to the rifle range, and there are probably at least as many AR-15's out on the tables as there are shooters. Half the rifles or more at your local gun store will be an AR-15. The advantages and disadvantages of the AR platform in particular don't really apply much to the type of situation under current discussion. A person shooting at unarmed and defenseless people in a 'gun-free zone' is not particularly helped or hampered by this platform as opposed to dozens of others. DGU's are impossible to count because many are never reported (it's hard for a massacre not to enter the statistics, or a suicide) and most never require discharging the firearm. Even the anti-gun CDC report, commissioned specifically for that purpose, found up to 3.5mm. |
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Accidental shooting you must remember is not likely a civilian shooting someone else. It is police collateral damage, a bit of Darwinian damage to oneself and poor judgement while cleaning or the hundreds of holster shootings into the groin or leg from Glocks that have caused many departments to change service pistols. (Glocks do not have a manual safety, they have a stage trigger. Having a gun in the same pocket as a keychain that could tangle into the trigger path is a bad recipe for the unskilled).
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I'm not sure if the DGU stat in the chart shows killed or shot. Based on the low number, I would venture that it is killed. And you are correct about make/model in instances where the perp or weapon wasn't captured. But a couple of years ago I looked up something that happened in my childhood town in 1985. I found info was listed in most instances individually (she used a Ruger 10/22.), but I am not aware of a 'master database'. So any info is going to be skewed by the 'known/reported' (since the number of unreported is unknown), and the disjointed recording locations.
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https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/q...1-b80987f753b4 By the way, I came across an article that confirms that the Gun Violence Archive only uses news stories/police reports to count DGUs. It also goes into the challenges of trying to extrapolate total DGUs across the country. In short, its complicated.... https://www.thetrace.org/2022/06/def...uys-with-guns/ Last edited by cgjackson222; 07-21-2022 at 05:51 PM. |
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US rate of gun deaths is 30th overall. Rate of suicide by gun is 2nd. The rates do not include failed attempts. Or prevented attempts. Mental health screening, flagging, and treatment should be part of the deal
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As for your last statement, I would need far more info but we are certainly not far apart. I am not against reasonable rules, I just get frustrated by such stats when used as it demeans a discussion. It’s much like stating that there are more stair falls in a 2 story home vs a ranch. I am fully for reasonable debate toward guidelines, with give and take. I was staying out and was a bit grumpy from a poor day and probably should not have jumped in. If you feel I was attacking, I apologize, probably should have kept my mouth out of it as I continue to feel this is an exercise in futility. I just think it’s sad as in reality there is some middle ground to be found if people could discuss. I’ll try to keep out to avoid causing frustration for myself and others.
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Here is the complete ranking so we can feel better than Kiribati, Micronesia, and Suriname.
Country T Suicide Rate Male Female 2022 Population Lesotho 72.4 116 30.1 2,305,825 Guyana 40.3 63 17.4 808,726 Eswatini 29.4 55.1 4.7 1,201,670 South Korea 28.6 40.2 16.9 51,815,810 Kiribati 28.3 48.6 8.7 131,232 Micronesia 28.2 43.2 12.7 114,164 Lithuania 26.1 45.4 9.6 2,750,055 Suriname 25.4 38.8 11.8 618,040 Russia 25.1 43.6 9.1 144,713,314 South Africa 23.5 37.6 9.8 59,893,885 Ukraine 21.6 39.2 6.5 39,701,739 Belarus 21.2 36.7 7.7 9,534,954 Uruguay 21.2 34.5 8.9 3,422,794 Montenegro21 31.7 10.4 627,082 Latvia 20.1 35.5 7 1,850,651 Slovenia 19.8 31.4 8.3 2,119,844 Belgium 18.3 24.9 11.8 11,655,930 Vanuatu 18 28.1 7.6 326,740 Mongolia 17.9 30.7 5.4 3,398,366 Kazakhstan17.6 29 6.8 19,397,998 Hungary 16.6 25.9 8.3 9,967,308 Croatia 16.4 25.3 8.1 4,030,358 US 16.1 25 7.5 338,289,857 Botswana 16.1 26.3 6.4 2,630,296 Japan 15.3 21.8 9.2 123,951,692 Finland 15.3 23.2 7.6 5,540,745 Estonia 14.9 24.3 6.5 1,326,062 Sweden 14.7 19.9 9.5 10,549,347 Moldova 14.7 26.1 4.1 3,272,996 Solomon I 14.7 27 1.9 724,273 Austria 14.6 22.8 6.7 8,939,617 Cuba 14.5 23 6 11,212,191 Switzerland14.5 20.2 9 8,740,472 Zimbabwe 14.1 20 8.8 16,320,537 Sri Lanka 14 22.3 6.2 21,832,143 France 13.8 20.4 7.6 64,626,628 Mozambi 13.6 22 5.7 32,969,518 India 12.7 14.1 11.1 1,417,173,173 Samoa 12.6 18 6.7 222,382 Australia 12.5 18.6 6.4 26,177,413 Germany 12.3 18.6 6.2 83,369,843 CAR 12.3 19.6 5.2 5,579,144 Slovakia 12.1 21.2 3.4 5,643,453 Iceland 11.9 19.8 3.9 372,899 Canada 11.8 17.6 6.1 38,454,327 Netherland11.8 15.5 8.3 17,564,014 Norway 11.8 15.8 7.7 5,434,319 Portugal 11.5 17.9 5.7 10,270,865 Serbia 11.4 16.6 6.3 7,221,365 Poland 11.3 20.1 3.1 39,857,145 Luxembourg11.3 15.3 7.1 647,599 Singapore 11.2 15 7.1 5,975,689 New Zealand11 16.5 5.8 5,185,288 Eritrea 10.9 16.6 5.2 3,684,032 Bosnia And Herzegovina 10.9 17.6 4.5 3,233,526 Denmark 10.7 14.9 6.5 5,882,261 Romania 9.7 16.5 3.3 19,659,267 Bulgaria 9.7 15.3 4.4 6,781,953 Namibia 9.7 16.7 3.2 2,567,012 Haiti 9.6 11.8 7.6 11,584,996 Ireland 9.6 15.4 3.9 5,023,109 Djibouti 9.6 12.6 6.4 1,120,849 Mauritius 9.5 16.3 2.8 1,299,469 N Korea 9.4 11.2 7.6 26,069,416 N Macedonia9.4 13.9 4.8 2,093,599 Georgia 9.2 16 3 3,744,385 Nepal 9 16.4 2.7 30,547,580 Cameroon 9 13.6 4.4 27,914,536 Chile 9 14.9 3.2 19,603,733 Fiji 9 12.2 5.7 929,766 Pakistan 8.9 13.3 4.3 235,824,862 Ivory Coast 8.9 14.9 2.8 28,160,542 Bahrain 8.9 12.5 2.4 1,472,233 Thailand 8.8 15 2.9 71,697,030 Togo 8.8 13.8 3.9 8,848,699 Trinidad And Tobago 8.7 13.9 3.6 1,531,044 Argentina 8.4 13.7 3.3 45,510,318 Gabon 8.4 14.2 2.4 2,388,992 China 8.1 9.8 6.2 1,425,887,337 Costa Rica 8.1 14.1 2 5,180,829 Seychelles 8.1 14.4 1.4 107,118 Uzbekistan 8 11.3 4.8 34,627,652 United Kingdom 7.9 11.8 4 67,508,936 Somalia 7.9 12 3.8 17,597,511 Equl Guinea7.9 9.4 6 1,674,908 Saint Lucia 7.9 14.3 1.7 179,857 Benin 7.8 11.8 3.8 13,352,864 Spain 7.7 11.4 4.2 47,558,630 Ecuador 7.6 11.6 3.6 18,001,000 Vietnam 7.5 10.4 4.7 98,186,856 Burkina Faso7.5 11.3 3.7 22,673,762 Kyrgyzstan 7.4 11.7 3.2 6,630,623 Zambia 7.3 12 2.7 20,017,675 Morocco 7.2 9.7 4.7 37,457,971 Belize 7.1 12.5 1.7 405,272 Guinea 7 9.2 4.9 13,859,341 Guinea Bissau 7 10.2 3.9 2,105,566 Brazil 6.9 10.9 3 215,313,498 DR Congo 6.7 10.6 2.8 99,010,212 Italy 6.7 10.1 3.5 59,037,474 Sierra Leone 6.7 8.3 5.1 8,605,718 Ghana 6.6 11.8 1.2 33,475,870 Chad 6.4 9.6 3.3 17,723,315 United Arab Emirates 6.4 8 3 9,441,129 Burundi 6.2 9.2 3.4 12,889,576 Bolivia 6.2 8.4 4.1 12,224,110 Kenya 6.1 9.1 3.2 54,027,487 Angola 6.1 10 2.3 35,588,987 El Salvador 6.1 10.5 2.1 6,336,392 Malta 6.1 9.8 2.3 533,286 Saudi Arabia 6 8.9 2 36,408,820 Senegal 6 9.2 3 17,316,449 Paraguay 6 8.7 3.2 6,780,744 Guatemala 5.9 9.3 2.6 17,843,908 Yemen 5.8 7 4.6 33,696,614 Qatar 5.8 7.2 1.7 2,695,122 Malaysia 5.7 8.9 2.3 33,938,221 Turkmenistan 5.7 8.8 2.7 6,430,770 Rwanda 5.6 8.2 3 13,776,698 Madagascar 5.5 7.6 3.4 29,611,714 Ethiopia 5.4 7.7 3.1 123,379,924 Malawi 5.4 9.2 1.7 20,405,317 Laos 5.4 7.6 3.2 7,529,475 Comoros 5.4 7 3.8 836,774 Mexico 5.3 8.5 2.2 127,504,125 Niger 5.3 7.2 3.3 26,207,977 Israel 5.3 8.4 2.3 9,038,309 Iran 5.2 7.7 2.8 88,550,570 Greece 5.1 8.4 1.9 10,384,971 Cambodia 4.9 7 2.8 16,767,842 Dominican Republic 4.9 8 1.8 11,228,821 Oman 4.9 6.8 1 4,576,298 Gambia 4.8 6.6 3 2,705,992 Uganda 4.6 7.6 1.7 47,249,585 Bhutan 4.6 6.3 2.7 782,455 Libya 4.5 6 2.9 6,812,341 Liberia 4.5 5.6 3.3 5,302,681 Nicaragua 4.4 6.9 1.9 6,948,392 Tanzania 4.3 6.6 2 65,497,748 Tajikistan 4.3 5.7 2.8 9,952,787 Albania 4.3 5.9 2.7 2,842,321 Afghanistan 4.1 4.6 3.6 41,128,771 Mali 4.1 5.3 2.9 22,593,590 Azerbaijan 4.1 6.6 1.6 10,358,074 Colombia 3.9 6.1 1.8 51,874,024 South Sudan 3.9 5.7 2 10,913,164 Sudan 3.8 4.9 2.8 46,874,204 Tonga 3.8 5 2.6 106,858 Bangladesh 3.7 5.7 1.7 171,186,372 Timor Leste 3.7 5.3 2 1,341,296 Iraq 3.6 5.2 2 44,496,122 Cyprus 3.6 6 1.3 1,251,488 Nigeria 3.5 5 1.9 218,541,212 Bahamas 3.5 5.9 1.3 409,984 Tunisia 3.3 4.7 1.9 12,356,117 Armenia 3.3 5.6 1.3 2,780,469 Mauritania 3.1 4 2.2 4,736,139 Egypt 3 4 2 110,990,103 Papua New Guinea 3 4.3 1.6 10,142,619 Myanmar 2.9 4.9 1.1 54,179,306 Panama 2.9 4.7 1 4,408,581 Kuwait 2.9 4.3 0.7 4,268,873 Peru 2.8 4.2 1.4 34,049,588 Lebanon 2.8 3.8 1.7 5,489,739 Maldives 2.7 3.9 0.8 523,787 Brunei 2.7 4.4 0.8 449,002 Algeria 2.5 3.1 1.8 44,903,225 Indonesia 2.4 3.7 1.1 275,501,339 Turkey 2.4 3.6 1.2 85,341,241 Jamaica 2.4 3.7 1.1 2,827,377 Philippines 2.2 3.1 1.2 115,559,009 Venezuela 2.1 3.5 0.7 28,301,696 Honduras 2.1 3.3 0.8 10,432,860 Jordan 1.6 2.5 0.7 11,285,869 Sao Tome And Principe 1.5 2.2 0.8 227,380 Saint Vincent And the Grenadines 1 1.3 0.6 103,948 Grenada 0.7 0.6 0.7 125,438 Barbados 0.6 0.9 0.3 281,635 Antigua And Barbuda 0.4 0 0.8 93,763 Suicide by gun rank is all countries regardless how tiny they are. And I misspoke as I looked at a ranking from 2016. We are currently #1. Country Firearm-related death rate per 100K population per year Homicide rate per year Suicide rate per year Total death number per year United States 12.21 4.46 7.32 40,175
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I didn't mean to distort the overall point.
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Under what reasoning is that number a better debate point than a general suicide count for the country? The method is unimportant unless you are purposely using selective data points. It is duplicitous to set a data point using an entirely assumed reason that suicide would decline if they are requested to change method, that is a public health issue. This is a sensitive issue for me as a mental health volunteer who has lost many amazing people to mental illness and value them and continue to be angered by the disregard of our government to address an issue that is not proving a debate point by disregarding human lives with this type of statistic as politicians tend to take advantage of tragedies. This goes entirely back to my statement and much as to why people get defensive. I am also with you on waiting periods even if they help in a small case (I say that only in example, I do not know if they will help...but waiting a couple days in a depression circle can't hurt as it gives time to seek help. Sadly those requests are often overlooked, but that is for another discussion.) Again, I am not attacking. This was a selected statistic located in which your answer was obvious based on ownership numbers, but leaves the most important fact off the table. It falls in the same bucket as changing the number deciding a mass murder, the weapon type percentages stay the same. I again am trying to stay out for today, and I again state that I think we likely have more similarities than differences...this one stat used hit a little close to home for me and my experience and this is my response.
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It appeared that an attempt was made to pooh-pooh the suicide by gun rate, by pointing out that someone could be successful in countless other ways. IMO, the stat of overall suicide rate in relation to all countries is virtually meaningless in this discussion. The fact that the US is in the top tier overall, and #1 in firearm use, seems that we have several significant factors involved. Also, I am intimately aware of the stress that those who are in the MH community experience. I commend you on your service. It is not a job it is a calling. People don't realize the enormous emotional capital that is expended daily.
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We have more firearms here than any other country in the world, so naturally there are going to be more suicides by firearm. In fact, I'm shocked we're not number 1. What's appalling is your lack of care behind what is causing people to commit suicide, by your lack of care for the overall number instead of just the suicide by firearm statistic. You and many others are so hellbent on taking away firearms that you ignore the real problems.
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The idea that suicide rates go up with gun ownership (not just suicide by guns, but overall suicide rates more generally) is well-documented. “Suicide attempts are often impulsive acts, driven by transient life crises,” the authors write. “Most attempts are not fatal, and most people who attempt suicide do not go on to die in a future suicide. Whether a suicide attempt is fatal depends heavily on the lethality of the method used — and firearms are extremely lethal. These facts focus attention on firearm access as a risk factor for suicide especially in the United States, which has a higher prevalence of civilian-owned firearms than any other country and one of the highest rates of suicide by firearm.” Deertick acknowledged the mental health crisis underlying the suicide crises in this country, and that more attention/funding is needed to address the issue. https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-ne...cide-risk.html https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazin.../guns-suicide/ https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/03/...tudy-confirms/ Last edited by cgjackson222; 07-22-2022 at 02:27 PM. |
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In a firearm suicide, who pulls the trigger?
Go one step back. What caused that person to put a gun to their head? Go one step back. What was society doing while the person was going down a dark hole? Spoiler alert: probably arguing about restricting/banning inanimate objects. And that's the issue. Speaking of suicide: Epstein didn't kill himself.
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I think he did for one reason: his life for decades was one of opulence, luxury, immense wealth, power, beautiful young women, and he knew that was all gone and he would have to live a menial life the rest of the way and wanted no part of it. I also believe the powers that be wanted the same result and purposely enabled him to do it by turning the cameras off and putting incompetent guards in charge of watching him.
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I may be an optimist these days, but I think we just might have found something we can all agree on now...
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I was pointing to the fact in was praying on unsophisticated girls.... its always the people that are looking to troll on an issue that you wonder is it themselves that have the same issue.. ( not saying you, just generally)...
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Predators often choose their prey based on what they think they can get away with. Did you expect to find that he had been raping all his ultra-wealthy friends' children instead?
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i am saying that TO the predator, they were 'fast food' options (someone that can be delivered quickly for cheap and other people used that terms before which i just requoted) someone opined they were easier targets than well off people......your 'outrage' is misplaced but its common these days on the boards to have lots of 'outrage' Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 07-29-2022 at 01:48 PM. |
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so all predators only pray on the same people that he got away with..i think not... your comment seems to imply that victims are either from high schools with lesser means that are recruited or children from ultra wealthy friends. I beg to differ I do believe people that pray on the vulnerable are the biggest criminals out there and should do more time or just as much time as the worst of the worst criminals..... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 07-29-2022 at 01:53 PM. |
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Again you give a non answer. Saying Epstein would of been less successful against 'sophisticated' kids of wealth people, does not seem to include a LOT of woman in between those genres in which he would also be super successful...he was promising victorias secret access i believe which people older than high school age could have easily been fallen pray Weinstein was pretty successful with woman older than kids in high school who i will go out on a limb and say they were more 'sophisticated'...that the girls that were with epstien.. |
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Again you give a non answer. Saying Epstein would of been less successful against 'sophisticated' kids of wealth people, does not seem to include a LOT of woman in between those genres in which he would also be super successful...he was promising victorias secret access i believe which people older than high school age could have easily been fallen pray....you also ignore my post in which to Epstien he considered the girls the FF option. Weinstein was pretty successful with woman older than kids in high school who i will go out on a limb and say they were more 'sophisticated'...then the girls that were with epstein we can all agree it was a terrible outrage..not sure why you direct posts to me on this....perhaps you may want to move on.. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 07-29-2022 at 03:19 PM. |
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however Weinstein was with at least one underage girl allegedly that was 16 years old so if true, plus who knows who else we dont know about, but that would be considered pedophile behavior i would submit, this is a gun ownership thread..maybe you may want to direct to your responses about the thread...... Epstien was with girls that were over 18...so was Weinstein..not sure why you are trying to make a difference...we can all agree both of their behaviors were terribly bad.. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 07-30-2022 at 05:51 AM. |
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That is not a statement TO Epstein. Epstein wasn't 'trolling' on the issue, nor is he plural. You are explicitly addressing the people here, the 'trolls', by which you seem to mean the people who think your post is bizarre at best, might themselves "have the same issue", which is obviously being a pedophile. At least have the guts to own it if you're crazy enough to claim it. What is wrong with you? I've seen a lot of stupid shit on Net54 (just like everywhere in the world), from the low effort scammers to the guy who was virtue signaling about how people shouldn't post pictures of Cap Anson while using a picture of Cap Anson as his avatar, but saying that most people here (nobody seems to think your fast food comment or joke is appropriate, tasteful or possibly sensical, thank God) might be pedophiles for that takes the cake. Are you insane or just off your meds this week? |
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what is wrong with you.. when i see you attack the poster and not debate the message we all know you are just a trolling....nobody wants a troller... you also misidentify and spin almost everything i said as well.....i .ive seen some crazy posts as well.....all this fake outrage as well...i continue to advise of the bad actions of these eptsien, wienstien and lets add R. Kelly over and over and all you do is attack the poster. All I keep saying is how terrible these people are and you are calling me insane... so its insane for me to say Weinstein is a sick and terrible person. Please stop lieing and mischaracterizing my posts...Yes I said to Mr. Epstein he looked at the victims as FF options (thats what my intent was that was explained)...and i also said he was a terrible person and should be in jail as long as any of the worst criminals in the world , dont hear you comment a peep on that.. You took the liberty to say i am calling people on the board pedis, when i said 'generally' and was not implying anyone on the these boards AND was not referring to just pedis, was referring to all things as i said AN ISSUE, (example, some people see too much violence in all matters in life, but they themselves have a violence issue )I thought you were the grammar king as i did not say THIS issue.........just a crazy narrative... facts do not care about your feelings... this is a gun ownership thread...i am just responding to personal attacks, i am not the one initiating them.. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 07-30-2022 at 07:53 PM. |
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Everyone can read and make their own decisions..not sure why you continue to banter back and forth, nobody else cares..but you right i am luny to go back and forth with you on this thread. Perhaps you will make another personal attack but is what it is.... we both like cards so does everyone else...maybe you want to put an end to it or make another post which many would deem luny at this point...
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If we can get back to topic instead of this nutter's rants about how disagreeing with his shitposts makes one possibly a pedophile, that would be great... Each sidetrack off topic just gets crazier and crazier. I'm not sure we can top this one, it's probably peaked. |
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Guns
One rifle and 3 handguns. Target shooting for sure and safety at home second.
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move on son..........now to gun control unless you wish to make more off topic attacks..we shall see. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 07-31-2022 at 09:20 AM. |
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Some people should not own firearms. |
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[QUOTESome people should not own firearms.[/QUOTE]
YES!!!!!!! Finally!!!!!! The whole point of this accidentally launched thread!!!!! |
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YES!!!!!!! Finally!!!!!! The whole point of this accidentally launched thread!!!!![/QUOTE]
Not a single person this entire time has said every person should own one or that some laws restricting some, like violent felons or the mentally deranged, from possession is unconstitutional. That’s the one thing that has been unanimous. I do genuinely love that OP dropped a hot topic controversy and didn’t come back for over 1,000 posts. |
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Maybe can go on topic to which I say Yes some people should not own firearms and agree with you 100% on that Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 08-02-2022 at 06:41 AM. |
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2. How do you deny them the right to legally own them? 3. How do you prevent them from getting firearms illegally? Notes on the above: 1. Some calls are simple (Manson) but many of these people who go on rampages are pretty normal up to that point. 2. Taking away someone's rights based on comments by others (neighbors, ex-girlfriends, etc.) is risky. People who write about murder (Alfred Hitchcock, Ed Poe, Steve King) are not necessarily planning to do it. 3. Look how commonplace illegal drugs are in this country. Obtaining guns illegally would be (or already is) just as common. Gangs don't arm themselves legally, by going through background checks, etc. More gun control laws won't hinder them one bit. In fact, it will make their gun selling activities that much more lucrative. |
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That’s why I used a question mark to, you know, signify a question. Is that your solution?
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