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Old 10-28-2022, 07:57 AM
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Presidents.
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Old 10-28-2022, 10:20 PM
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The President with the highest WAR:
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Old 10-28-2022, 10:23 PM
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And more Washington, because there's never enough Washington:
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Ike's WAR might be higher.
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I think you're using the milgraphs version of WAR while I'm using the Military-reference.com version. My favorite Ike card is probably his Red Menace, but I haven't finished that set and don't have his.

Here's the Presidents whose primary career before the Oval Office was the Military. Roosevelt was greatly boosted in his political career by the Rough Riders and their exploits in the Spanish War, and some others served as general officers, but it was not their primary careers nor were they really professional soldiers.

I love this set in all 3 of it's forms, these are from the 1956's in which I only need FDR to finish. I keep hoping Topps will give us cards in this style of Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Trump and Biden in one of their Heritage style releases to update the set.
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Washington had weaknesses that keep down his WAR.

https://www.washingtoncrossingpark.o...hs-weaknesses/
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Washington had weaknesses that keep down his WAR.

https://www.washingtoncrossingpark.o...hs-weaknesses/
Interesting piece. I don't disagree, though I think using Trenton as the example is a bad idea as that was an astounding domination victory for Washington. He lost 2 men to exposure and had like 5 casualties while taking out an entire regiment. It is the same core weakness that Lee had, who I know historians love to attack now, but successfully beat the odds time and time again against a much better armed and numerically superior force for two entire years in one of the best fought series of campaigns in history, until his best subordinates were dead. He continued to use more complex tactical movements that his new commanders could not or would not really execute and it cost him Gettysburg and the northern invasion. His gentility and distaste for confrontation kept too many of his weaker replacement commanders in place for too long.

All have strengths and weaknesses, I give Washington points for having the odds heavily stacked against him. Eisenhower would win inevitably almost no matter how he actually performed. He saved many coalition lives by not messing it up and making mostly the right calls at mostly the right times, but with US industrial power and the Soviets doing most of the actual fighting and draining Hitler's resources, it would have been almost impossible to actually lose it. Pershing is in a similar boat but seems to be mostly forgotten now. Grant's reputation as a General is being rehabilitated to suit our contemporary narratives, though he was never really considered bad, just a user of brute force instead of careful tactics to save his mens lives. Winfield Scott probably deserves more consideration than he gets.

But anyways, here's some of the WWII command in one of my favorite cheap common sets, the Look N See's that the 1952 baseball issue lifted the design from. I like low grade, but even I need to upgrade the Truman...
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