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Old 12-05-2022, 05:17 PM
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I was referring to the videos she filmed and were leaked, her messages, how her story never managed to line up with the evidence and her numerous direct contradictions that sunk the case. That she made a claim is not evidence of her claim being true. That she claimed he hit her is not evidence of anything, because everyone admitted that and the issue is of consensual rough sex vs. rape.
OK so there is a lot of evidence that he beat her up, in fact he admits to most of it, but not much evidence, other than her testimony, that it was non-consensual. And he had evidence that called into question her testimony.



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Old 12-05-2022, 05:54 PM
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OK so there is a lot of evidence that he beat her up, in fact he admits to most of it, but not much evidence, other than her testimony, that it was non-consensual. And he had evidence that called into question her testimony.



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Yes, but the evidence is a bit more than just calling her testimony into question. He said consensual, she said rape. She looks perfectly fine, happy and unharmed in the videos she filmed in his bedroom while he was asleep shortly after, she later alleged, he violently raped her. Their documented communications did not appear to be anything but a consensual sexual relationship. She continued to happily meet up with him for more sex. She asked him, in writing, to slap her and give her "all the pain" during said sex, in communications that are publicly available. Her details and narrative changed several times to try and clear up contradictions, creating new ones.

Sexual crimes are bad, beyond the obvious reasons, because it is a crime in private. Many guilty cases are still a 'he says she says' because it was in private. This isn't one of those cases. Her story was directly contradicted by the documentary evidence, and not in the small details. She asked him to do it, in writing, and came back for more. He did it. That's not rape. Bauer is guilty of partaking in a kind of sex some may not enjoy and of spitting some bad lines in those texts, but all of the actual evidence suggests the charge is a lie. Which is a tragic shame all around, Bauer will live with a presumption of guilt from much of the public for the rest of his life because the media found him guilty before seeing any evidence, and every time we have one of these cases and the media latches onto it and then it turns out to be a big load of fiction, it hurts trust in genuine victims of actual horrible crimes.
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Old 12-05-2022, 06:08 PM
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I’ll flip any card but OJ / F that dude and California lol
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Old 12-05-2022, 06:09 PM
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I’ll flip any card but OJ / F that dude and California lol
Yea, Californians are the absolute worst
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Old 12-05-2022, 06:27 PM
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yeah yikes, just responding to the op / Michael Vick is on the list

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Old 12-05-2022, 07:00 PM
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with unusual victim testing the limits with athlete is like most things in life that i sum up with one ultimate analogy.

You go to a bar, and you stare at some dudes...eventually one will look at you back and say 'why are you staring' you say ' what you going to do about it'

arent you a wacky person for saying that? do you deserve in theory to be beat up as people will say on fantasy chat boards but in real life..

you get beat up, it not your fault legally and the other person should be charged with a crime. There are lots of 'what you going to do about it people out there' that 'have it coming to them in fantasy' but in the real world the other person has to be the normal person...

Bauer could of not engaged with that 'what you going to do about it person'
and so on and so on..
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Old 12-06-2022, 11:01 AM
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with unusual victim testing the limits with athlete is like most things in life that i sum up with one ultimate analogy.

You go to a bar, and you stare at some dudes...eventually one will look at you back and say 'why are you staring' you say ' what you going to do about it'

arent you a wacky person for saying that? do you deserve in theory to be beat up as people will say on fantasy chat boards but in real life..

you get beat up, it not your fault legally and the other person should be charged with a crime. There are lots of 'what you going to do about it people out there' that 'have it coming to them in fantasy' but in the real world the other person has to be the normal person...

Bauer could of not engaged with that 'what you going to do about it person'
and so on and so on..
This sounds eerily like a bar scene from Yellowstone, in which a California Tourist Girl's face is met with a whiskey bottle (courtesy of Beth). Suffice to say it did not end well for her.
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Old 12-06-2022, 02:37 AM
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Yes, but the evidence is a bit more than just calling her testimony into question. He said consensual, she said rape. She looks perfectly fine, happy and unharmed in the videos she filmed in his bedroom while he was asleep shortly after, she later alleged, he violently raped her. Their documented communications did not appear to be anything but a consensual sexual relationship. She continued to happily meet up with him for more sex. She asked him, in writing, to slap her and give her "all the pain" during said sex, in communications that are publicly available. Her details and narrative changed several times to try and clear up contradictions, creating new ones.

Sexual crimes are bad, beyond the obvious reasons, because it is a crime in private. Many guilty cases are still a 'he says she says' because it was in private. This isn't one of those cases. Her story was directly contradicted by the documentary evidence, and not in the small details. She asked him to do it, in writing, and came back for more. He did it. That's not rape. Bauer is guilty of partaking in a kind of sex some may not enjoy and of spitting some bad lines in those texts, but all of the actual evidence suggests the charge is a lie. Which is a tragic shame all around, Bauer will live with a presumption of guilt from much of the public for the rest of his life because the media found him guilty before seeing any evidence, and every time we have one of these cases and the media latches onto it and then it turns out to be a big load of fiction, it hurts trust in genuine victims of actual horrible crimes.
Well said. When those videos were posted online, I was shocked. Completely flipped the script for me.
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