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Old 01-21-2023, 08:48 AM
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I'll be surprised if CSG doesn't acquire SGC in the not too distant future and then make SGC its vintage division.
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Old 01-21-2023, 08:54 AM
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I'll be surprised if CSG doesn't acquire SGC in the not too distant future and then make SGC its vintage division.
I hope not. I like CSG way better for vintage. They have been able to grade my pre war cards that SGC didn't have a clue about.
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Old 01-21-2023, 08:59 AM
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I'll be surprised if CSG doesn't acquire SGC in the not too distant future and then make SGC its vintage division.
Agree !
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I'll be surprised if CSG doesn't acquire SGC in the not too distant future and then make SGC its vintage division.
Could be. I wouldn’t be surprised if this happens. Little shakeup never hurts.
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Old 01-23-2023, 07:22 AM
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I'll be surprised if CSG doesn't acquire SGC in the not too distant future and then make SGC its vintage division.
Interesting if this would happen. I had heard that PSA made a similar push for SGC a few years ago.
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Old 01-23-2023, 07:26 AM
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Why would SGC sell?
They seem to be doing well, so why would they bail?
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Interesting if this would happen. I had heard that PSA made a similar push for SGC a few years ago.
We heard these rumors last year. I wonder if there is any truth to this?
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Gaming cards graded for January. It doesn’t appear the Pokémon Special is getting much traction.
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Gaming cards graded for January. It doesn’t appear the Pokémon Special is getting much traction.
Interesting how CSG and their brother/sister card grading entities seem to be firmly in place as the #2 TPG now.
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Old 02-03-2023, 05:23 AM
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Interesting how CSG and their brother/sister card grading entities seem to be firmly in place as the #2 TPG now.
They’re doing very well Bob….I think SGC is feeling the HEAT
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They’re doing very well Bob….I think SGC is feeling the HEAT
I remember saying when CSG first entered the TPG market how with their corporate background, makeup, and support, along with the worldwide recognition they already had as an industry leader in the grading of comics, coins, and currency, they might just be the ones to finally bring some change to the grading of cards and actually challenge PSA. Of course, in a thread started on the forum announcing how CSG had just agreed to work with PWCC and grade cards for them, I tried to turn that thread toward a civil, intelligent, adult discussion about how from a business standpoint, that decision by CSG could actually be a good move by them, despite the negative publicity and allegations PWCC had hanging over them. But of course, right on cue the usual jack-off trolls on Net54 immediately jumped me, and started condemning CSG as basically being as guilty of the same crimes that PWCC is alleged to be guilty of, by merely agreeing to work with them. Of course, CSG hadn't really done anything wrong to anyone's knowledge at that point, but that didn't stop another of our "brilliant and intelligent" members from comparing CSG to the guy who fixed the toilets in the Death Star from the Star Wars movies. Guilty by mere association, and the poster even went further to publicly declare they would never have anything to do with CSG, ever! Seems CSG, and their brother/sister companies like CGC, are all still doing pretty okay without such an idiots' support and business after all, wouldn't you agree?

Now CSG does have their own Registry that is up and running, but not being a Registry person myself, have never looked into it and have no idea how it compares to PSA's registry, or the depth and volume that PSA's Registry may encompass. I really have no knowledge of PSA's Registry either, other than a LOT of collectors seem to live and die for it, and how it apparently can have a huge impact on market prices for cards. I had also previously said I could see it maybe being a smart move for CSG's parent holding company, CCG (Certified Collectibles Group), to possibly look into acquiring SGC as another subsidiary. It would immediately bring more cache and experience to the CCG family in the grading of vintage and pre-war cards, along with offering another option for CCG's customer base to choose another style of holder that many people in the hobby prefer. It would definitely seem to be able to add a lot more money and advertising to support and back SGC going forward as well. As one other poster pointed out, SGC's $15 per card grading offer for TGCs (Trading Game Cards) looks like an attempt by SGC to try and grow and expand their business, but which by the looks of those monthly submission numbers posted, isn't doing as well as they may have liked. That could be a sign that there is some vulnerability in SGC from a business standpoint, and a possible opening may exist to CCG acquiring them after all. I know if I was involved at CCG that I would certainly be bringing this point up to anyone else willing to listen. And then if such an acquisition was able to be completed, I would next push to expand the CSG Registry so that it covered and included all CSG, CGC, and SGC graded cards in it. Then I think you might start to see even more inroads going against PSA's current dominance of the TPG industry.
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