Alex Rodriguez Thinks He Is Entitled

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Without knowing how long he was really on PEDs and what the true impact on his playing ability was, I think it's hard to say if he's overrated or not. Of he was using them his whole career then how do you really know?

You could say that about almost anyone except Derek Jeter. How do we really know many more guys who didn't get caught weren't using?

[ClementeFanOh]

Peter- you just can’t stay on topic, can you? Keep it between the lines? No sir, gotta be different…the topic HERE is A Rod, not “other players”. “Other players” aren’t lamenting one of their former teams’ lack of interest in retiring their numbers, in some feeble attempt to stay relevant. That’s A Rod, and this is somewhere in the neighborhood of his one thousandth display of jackassery. He was a carpetbagger his entire career and his stat line is an asterisk- all of it. Any defense of him is you just playing games. Trent King

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

Peter- you just can’t stay on topic, can you? Keep it between the lines? No sir, gotta be different…the topic HERE is A Rod, not “other players”. “Other players” aren’t lamenting one of their former teams’ lack of interest in retiring their numbers, in some feeble attempt to stay relevant. That’s A Rod, and this is somewhere in the neighborhood of his one thousandth display of jackassery. He was a carpetbagger his entire career and his stat line is an asterisk- all of it. Any defense of him is you just playing games. Trent King

It was a perfectly fair question in response to Jay's, because it brought up the difficulty with evaluating anyone during the steroid era including ARod, but I am sorry it triggered your OCD about going off topic. Hope all is well with you.

[G1911]

The Yankees retired Andy Pettitte's number in 2015; years after it became public knowledge that Pettitte was a steroid user and got dragged into the legal problems of that time over it.

The Yankees determined that steroid use is not a disqualifier for number retirement, nor is bad publicity in regards to it.

So... why wouldn't A-Rod's be retired, if the Yankees will retire the numbers of Steroid users? He was a far better player than Pettitte.

Seems like common sense that he would, thus, both qualify and merit number retirement.

[icurnmedic]

Arod seems to do some serious triggering, LOL.
He was still a generational talent, that happens to be a douche.
I think there are many of those out there, that likely weren’t/aren’t as talented.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

The Yankees retired Andy Pettitte's number in 2015; years after it became public knowledge that Pettitte was a steroid user and got dragged into the legal problems of that time over it.

The Yankees determined that steroid use is not a disqualifier for number retirement, nor is bad publicity in regards to it.

So... why wouldn't A-Rod's be retired, if the Yankees will retire the numbers of Steroid users? He was a far better player than Pettitte.

Seems like common sense that he would, thus, both qualify and merit number retirement.

You know the answer. When a nice guy does it, they forgive it.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You know the answer. When a nice guy does it, they forgive it.

I would never ask a leading question I damn well know the answer to is corruption, hypocrisy or indefensible double standards.

[bk400]

There's a lot to be said when a media- and image-savvy person like A Rod publicly expresses resentment for his number not being retired and, even worse, that someone who didn't end up having a great year got to wear his number.

That's exactly why his number hasn't been retired by the Yankees. I don't think it's either necessary or sufficient for a player to have the greatest individual stats to get their number retired by their former team. Look at Gooden and Strawberry for the Mets. On the other hand, if a sizable part of the fan base uses words like "douchebag" and "self-centered" to describe you, it's going to be an uphill battle. Why? Because the fans don't want to see the jersey of a self-centered douchebag hanging from their rafters.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by G1911

The Yankees retired Andy Pettitte's number in 2015; years after it became public knowledge that Pettitte was a steroid user and got dragged into the legal problems of that time over it.

The Yankees determined that steroid use is not a disqualifier for number retirement, nor is bad publicity in regards to it.

So... why wouldn't A-Rod's be retired, if the Yankees will retire the numbers of Steroid users? He was a far better player than Pettitte.

Seems like common sense that he would, thus, both qualify and merit number retirement.

This is the innocuous post that made this board go crazy and our regular nutball spaz out. It is not even off topic at all, they just do not like it not participating in an approved circlejerk. It is about A-Rod. It is about the issues raised in the OP. It is 100% on topic, it's just not circlejerking his viewpoint. That is not what off-topic means lol

This is somehow still less stupid than half this guys previous public meltdowns, such as his anger at reading a post against literally lynching people one doesn't like. That one he probably won't ever be able to beat. The bar is just too high now.

[Peter_Spaeth]

He went nuts on me earlier for suggesting it was hard to evaluate ARod's numbers in context because we don't really know who was clean and not in the steroid era. OMG.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He went nuts on me earlier for suggesting it was hard to evaluate ARod's numbers in context because we don't really know who was clean and not in the steroid era. OMG.

At least we aren’t that poor guy who just said he thought Al Kaline and Roberto Clemente were both great but he thought Kaline edged it and this nutter accused of being a cocaine addict for saying that. He is a hilarious combination of sheer stupidity and over the top insane anger. Can’t wait for the next time he goes apeshit and off topic over an innocuous statement he’s too mental to even read and understand. This moron started his vendetta with me over a tiny joke in a PWCC thread about PWCC’s fraud that sent him ballistic. At least get triggered over one of the 50 controversial things I’ve said here instead.