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Old 02-23-2024, 07:15 AM
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The first HOF vote was very complicated and confusing and the Wikipedia page's explanation is equally complicated and confusing. But essentially, it was almost impossible for Young to get inducted on that first ballot with him split between centuries and his votes being recorded in a very confusing way.

I don't know that you can look at strike out totals for him because of his era. But if you look at his WAR totals, he led the league six times, spent 14 seasons in the top five for the entire league, and he's still third all time today for all players.

He never got hurt either. It wasn't until he was 43 years old that his innings dipped below 200. I see him as a Dead Ball Nolan Ryan for his time. Not in the strike out sense, but in the durable freak sense.
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The first HOF vote was very complicated and confusing and the Wikipedia page's explanation is equally complicated and confusing. But essentially, it was almost impossible for Young to get inducted on that first ballot with him split between centuries and his votes being recorded in a very confusing way.

I don't know that you can look at strike out totals for him because of his era. But if you look at his WAR totals, he led the league six times, spent 14 seasons in the top five for the entire league, and he's still third all time today for all players.

He never got hurt either. It wasn't until he was 43 years old that his innings dipped below 200. I see him as a Dead Ball Nolan Ryan for his time. Not in the strike out sense, but in the durable freak sense.
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No question that Koufax was the GOHT (Greatest of his time).

Just back from the private signing is the line-up card from Game 4 of the 1963 World Series, signed by Sandy. At 88, still a very nice signature. According ot the guy supervising the signing, he spent about 5 minutes looking at this item, as it apparently brought back some memories. I would have loved to have been there to ask him his thoughts.

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No question that Koufax was the GOHT (Greatest of his time).

Just back from the private signing is the line-up card from Game 4 of the 1963 World Series, signed by Sandy. At 88, still a very nice signature. According ot the guy supervising the signing, he spent about 5 minutes looking at this item, as it apparently brought back some memories. I would have loved to have been there to ask him his thoughts.

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Amazing artifact, Rick! Congrats on deciding to get this signed.
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Something bothers me about calling the loss leader (315) in major league baseball the best pitcher of all time.

If the truncated career of Koufax was too short, then I guess the elongated career of Cy Young was too long.

If Cy Young is the GOAT, then George Blanda is the GOAT, best QB, of all time.

One could put Cy Young in the same basket as McGinnity, if you consider the Iron Man's minor league stats, that nearly equal his major league stats, with 470 total wins and 343 total losses. Their records suggest that in the 1890s and early 1900s, the disparity between the bigs and the minors may not have been that much.
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No question that Koufax was the GOHT (Greatest of his time).

Just back from the private signing is the line-up card from Game 4 of the 1963 World Series, signed by Sandy. At 88, still a very nice signature. According ot the guy supervising the signing, he spent about 5 minutes looking at this item, as it apparently brought back some memories. I would have loved to have been there to ask him his thoughts.

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What a great story, how’d you even find something like this? It’s an incredible piece of history!
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As for me, I’d love to get a Koufax auto one day, but on my budget, I can’t warrant spending that much. I’m a full time student, so the PC money I do get I use deal hunting, unfortunately Koufax isn’t the kinda guy I can find for $50 and lower, maybe if it was 2005 😭😭😭LOL.
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Saw this article on Yahoo today about an event signing Brady did where people were charged $3,600 for autographs. These people are very angry with the quality of "autographs" they got:

https://sports.yahoo.com/tom-brady-a...151456696.html

More photos in the Post story:

https://nypost.com/2024/04/23/us-new...tograph-event/

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