1991 Topps variations

[ALR-bishop]

Fascinating stuff in this thread about what is now a 30 + year old set. At the same time I have been following the research of another member on the printing processes and oddities of the 70 year old 52 set. Am enjoying watching both efforts. I have to think the Topps people that put these sets would be amazed at the deep dives into stuff they likely viewed as very basic get the product out the door process

[saucywombat]

Noticed that some players have an essentially identical dark spot or hashmark on the the "4" in the the "40 Years of Baseball" Logo. Most players have a corrected version but some do not. Most with corrected versions are equally divided in quantity between mark and corrected versions.

An interesting aspect is that all of the players are on either the Tigers, Braves or Cardinals.

772 - Kent Mercker (Braves)
743 - Bryn Smith (Cardinals)
742 - Tommy Gregg (Braves)
693 - Francisco Cabrera (Braves)
684- Milt Cuyler (Tigers)
632 - Lloyd Moseby (Tigers)
566 - Craig Wilson (Cardinals)
533 - Odibe McDowell (Braves)
519 - Sparky Anderson (Tigers)
498 - Mark Salas (Tigers)
492 - Ernie Whitt (Braves)
383 - Pete Smith (Braves)
351 - Joe Torre (Cardinals)
185 - Joe Magrane (Cardinals)
160 - Vince Coleman (Cardinals)
88 - Bob Tewksbury (Cardinals)
75 - Jack Morris (Tigers)
41 - Ken Dayley (Cardinals)

Curious if any "corrected" versions come only from factory sets. Or if some were never corrected?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by saucywombat

Noticed that some players have an essentially identical dark spot or hashmark on the the "4" in the the "40 Years of Baseball" Logo. Most players have a corrected version but some do not. Most with corrected versions are equally divided in quantity between mark and corrected versions.

An interesting aspect is that all of the players are on either the Tigers, Braves or Cardinals.

772 - Kent Mercker (Braves)
743 - Bryn Smith (Cardinals)
742 - Tommy Gregg (Braves)
693 - Francisco Cabrera (Braves)
684- Milt Cuyler (Tigers)
632 - Lloyd Moseby (Tigers)
566 - Craig Wilson (Cardinals)
533 - Odibe McDowell (Braves)
519 - Sparky Anderson (Tigers)
498 - Mark Salas (Tigers)
492 - Ernie Whitt (Braves)
383 - Pete Smith (Braves)
351 - Joe Torre (Cardinals)
185 - Joe Magrane (Cardinals)
160 - Vince Coleman (Cardinals)
88 - Bob Tewksbury (Cardinals)
75 - Jack Morris (Tigers)
41 - Ken Dayley (Cardinals)

Curious if any "corrected" versions come only from factory sets. Or if some were never corrected?

Hi Dave, in my experience what you are calling the "corrected" versions are only found on no glow backs

[saucywombat]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Hi Dave, in my experience what you are calling the "corrected" versions are only found on no glow backs

I'll have to check it out if I find time to go bank into the moster box 1991 Topps archives.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by saucywombat

I'll have to check it out if I find time to go bank into the moster box 1991 Topps archives.

If there are any without the mark found on a glow back they would have to be quite scarce. I checked all of my 91 Topps and here's what I have.

#75 Jack Morris - 32 total 10 without the mark all with no glow backs
#88 Bob Tewksbury - 27 total 12 no mark all no glow
#185 Joe Magrane - 27 total 12 no mark all no glow
#351 Joe Torre - 30 total 11 no mark all no glow
#383 Pete Smith - 33 total 5 no mark all no glow
#498 Mark Salas - 26 total 6 no mark all no glow
#533 Oddibe McDowell - 23 total 6 no mark all no glow
#566 Craig Wilson - 25 total 7 no mark all no glow
#684 Milt Cuyler - 23 total 3 no mark all no glow
#725 Ron Gant - 37 total 16 no mark all no glow
#743 Bryn Smith - 27 total 13 no mark all no glow

[Pat R]

Has anyone seen this Chipper variation before?

White spot on cap and white near/on left inner frame

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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Has anyone seen this Chipper variation before?

White spot on cap and white near/on left inner frame

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Never seen the white spot print error before. Seen one with a red spot in pretty much the same place.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by saucywombat

Noticed that some players have an essentially identical dark spot or hashmark on the the "4" in the the "40 Years of Baseball" Logo. Most players have a corrected version but some do not. Most with corrected versions are equally divided in quantity between mark and corrected versions.

An interesting aspect is that all of the players are on either the Tigers, Braves or Cardinals.

772 - Kent Mercker (Braves)
743 - Bryn Smith (Cardinals)
742 - Tommy Gregg (Braves)
693 - Francisco Cabrera (Braves)
684- Milt Cuyler (Tigers)
632 - Lloyd Moseby (Tigers)
566 - Craig Wilson (Cardinals)
533 - Odibe McDowell (Braves)
519 - Sparky Anderson (Tigers)
498 - Mark Salas (Tigers)
492 - Ernie Whitt (Braves)
383 - Pete Smith (Braves)
351 - Joe Torre (Cardinals)
185 - Joe Magrane (Cardinals)
160 - Vince Coleman (Cardinals)
88 - Bob Tewksbury (Cardinals)
75 - Jack Morris (Tigers)
41 - Ken Dayley (Cardinals)

Curious if any "corrected" versions come only from factory sets. Or if some were never corrected?

You can add #725 Ron Gant to the list. Also I can confirm that the following cards exist both with and without the Mark.

#743 - Bryn Smith
#725 - Ron Gant
#684 - Milt Cuyler
#566 - Craig Wilson
#533 - Odibe McDowell
#498 - Mark Salas
#383 Pete Smith
#351 - Joe Torre
#185 - Joe Magrane
#88 - Bob Tewkesbury
#75 - Jack Morris

I also have #693 Francisco Cabrera and #519 Sparky Anderson with very faint marks