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Update: https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...overed-arrest/

Besides the glamour shot of the perp, the two still missing cards have now been identified:

PSA 8 1941 Play Ball Ted Williams (PSA Cert #05159693)


PSA 5 1909 T204 Ramly Walter Johnson (PSA Cert #90586922)


Hope they recover these remaining two, especially the Ramly WaJo.
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Besides the glamour shot of the perp, the two still missing cards have now been identified:

PSA 8 1941 Play Ball Ted Williams (PSA Cert #05159693)


PSA 5 1909 T204 Ramly Walter Johnson (PSA Cert #90586922)


Hope they recover these remaining two, especially the Ramly WaJo.
Those grades are hilarious in comparison to what they'd receive today.
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There was a time grading was not tethered to the ultramodern perfect (or altered) card and you didn't need to alter a vintage card to get an 8.
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Right now the perp's face is matching his hands after being caught red-handed with the graded card loot.

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Right now the perp's face is matching his hands after being caught red-handed with the graded card loot.

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Those grades are hilarious in comparison to what they'd receive today.
I'd say today, the Williams might get a NM 7 and the Johnson a 4 VG-EX at best.
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I'd say today, the Williams might get a NM 7 and the Johnson a 4 VG-EX at best.
Not to beat them up because those are examples of grading at that time but the Williams might be a 6 today and yeah the Johnson is closer to VG and that VG-EX.
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Not to beat them up because those are examples of grading at that time but the Williams might be a 6 today and yeah the Johnson is closer to VG and that VG-EX.
Maybe that's what they would get today but they've become way too harsh. They overgraded years ago and now they undergrade so my assessments are right in the middle.
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Damn, Darren, I want one of those! But I think you should # to 54, one for each card this assclown stole.

I see that the perp is a young, fat, slovenly white guy...in other words, a typical card show attendee.
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Highly intelligent move, asking a friend to hang onto them. Like the police would never think of that.
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Damn, Darren, I want one of those! But I think you should # to 54, one for each card this assclown stole.

I see that the perp is a young, fat, slovenly white guy...in other words, a typical card show attendee.
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Maybe that's what they would get today but they've become way too harsh. They overgraded years ago and now they undergrade so my assessments are right in the middle.
Well we only have today and the future and at least to me the future is not defined. I was not supporting the grading standard's today. Simply stating an observation. It might only get more tight from here.

Each time they change their standards you and I should meet here and compare those old grades to the present grades.
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Highly intelligent move, asking a friend to hang onto them. Like the police would never think of that.
A MENSA member wouldn't have stolen from his place of work to begin with.
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I see that the perp is a young, fat, slovenly white guy...in other words, a typical card show attendee.
Well I think you pretty much nailed it, except for the “young” part.
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Well I think you pretty much nailed it, except for the “young” part.
His age is stated as 27 years old...he just looks like he could be in his early 40's.


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Well I guess it depends on perspective. I've been 27 a couple of times, so 27 seems young to me.
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Those grades are hilarious in comparison to what they'd receive today.
Apparently, Memory Lane likes to "freshen up" the old slabs for their auctions too. I had to leave one of my winning cards behind because they told me they "got a bad batch of slabs". The card looked worse than it did in the scans (of course you know that from experience) as the "baggie" surround looks like it was baked at 1000 degrees and the back of the case had about 50 stress cracks in it as well. Bad batch, LOL. They said they have a standing appointment with PSA and that it will get shipped back to me in a couple of weeks. . irvine is right around the corner. I'm sure it will look much better?

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Besides the glamour shot of the perp, the two still missing cards have now been identified:

PSA 8 1941 Play Ball Ted Williams (PSA Cert #05159693)

Hope they recover these remaining two, especially the Ramly WaJo.
Gulp, I bid on that Ted Williams but did not win. I feel bad for the sellers and the ones trying to buy the cards. That said, they delivered my '52 Topps Mays in a nice wooden case. If I could only get their logo off the case it would be great.
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gulp, i bid on that ted williams but did not win. I feel bad for the sellers and the ones trying to buy the cards. That said, they delivered my '52 topps mays in a nice wooden case. if i could only get their logo off the case it would be great.
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It appears some (all?) of the cert numbers have been deactivated on the PSA registry. Anyone have experience with what may happen next in that regard?
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What's your best guess?
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It appears some (all?) of the cert numbers have been deactivated on the PSA registry. Anyone have experience with what may happen next in that regard?
If you are referring to the 54 cards that had been stolen and now recovered, I think it would be obvious that PSA would activate the certs again.
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If you are referring to the 54 cards that had been stolen and now recovered, I think it would be obvious that PSA would activate the certs again.
Damn it, I wanted to hear his guess first.
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Damn it, I wanted to hear his guess first.
Sorry...I really did not. I will yield to you next time, deal?
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This board has a lot of answers...I will give ya that but I see so many posts here with people coming here as their first stop to ask a question to people who might or might not have experience in the particular area. Heck you will get opinions so if that is all you are seeking then, have at it.

I guess I have become way too practical. I want the right answer to my questions and nothing against anyone here but my first stop will be with the person or company who is directly involved.
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This board has a lot of answers...I will give ya that but I see so many posts here with people coming here as their first stop to ask a question to people who might or might not have experience in the particular area. Heck you will get opinions so if that is all you are seeking then, have at it.

I guess I have become way too practical. I want the right answer to my questions and nothing against anyone here but my first stop will be with the person or company who is directly involved.
This one was sort of common sense 101.
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woah, were you all making fun of me there? awesome community. I purchased one of the cards that was stolen and recovered and now deactivated. My only experience with deactivated cards has been ones later deemed as fake. I didn’t realize it was just a switch PSA could turn just back on. Appreciate the intel and glad you have more posts than me, up to 2!

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woah, were you all making fun of me there? awesome community. I purchased one of the cards that was stolen and recovered and now deactivated. My only experience with deactivated cards has been ones later deemed as fake. I didn’t realize it was just a switch PSA could turn just back on. Appreciate the intel and glad you have more posts than me, up to 2!

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They were.
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Well, I was aware of net54 for years from a distance and stumbled onto this thread when looking for information about the theft. I kept abreast by reading all 900 posts (many of which felt like old lawyers trying to prove who’s smarter), and frankly found all of the information I needed. Then I go to check the pop on the cards they found, only to annoyingly see them deactivated. I asked a simple (maybe naive to some) question in here and was met by a variety of sarcasm. Obviously I could ask PSA, but I’m also bound to get a faster (and probably as accurate) answer here. All good, enjoy your next 30,000 posts…I’m probably done at 3.

p.s. don’t be so quick to alienate…your family will need people to buy all this stuff when you kick the bucket.
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Well, I was aware of net54 for years from a distance and stumbled onto this thread when looking for information about the theft. I kept abreast by reading all 900 posts (many of which felt like old lawyers trying to prove who’s smarter), and frankly found all of the information I needed. Then I go to check the pop on the cards they found, only to annoyingly see them deactivated. I asked a simple (maybe naive to some) question in here and was met by a variety of sarcasm. Obviously I could ask PSA, but I’m also bound to get a faster (and probably as accurate) answer here. All good, enjoy your next 30,000 posts…I’m probably done at 3.

p.s. don’t be so quick to alienate…your family will need people to buy all this stuff when you kick the bucket.
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Well, I was aware of net54 for years from a distance and stumbled onto this thread when looking for information about the theft. I kept abreast by reading all 900 posts (many of which felt like old lawyers trying to prove who’s smarter), and frankly found all of the information I needed. Then I go to check the pop on the cards they found, only to annoyingly see them deactivated. I asked a simple (maybe naive to some) question in here and was met by a variety of sarcasm. Obviously I could ask PSA, but I’m also bound to get a faster (and probably as accurate) answer here. All good, enjoy your next 30,000 posts…I’m probably done at 3.

p.s. don’t be so quick to alienate…your family will need people to buy all this stuff when you kick the bucket.
Question could have been and should have been posed to the auction house prior to your paying for your cards. It would take 4 to 6 weeks for PSA to get back with you.

Sounds like you have purchased fake cards or are at least familiar with that reality in the hobby, it would seem like common sense to resolve the cert issue before you send anyone money.

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If people will buy from and defend anything done by convicted fraudsters, they will be happy to buy from my heirs regardless of whether or not they hate me for winning/losing in a chat board scrap 40 years ago. It's fine.
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Go ahead then. Alienate away!!
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What is clearly in very short supply in the hobby are morals, ethics, conviction and a backbone...big wallets are not an issue.
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Years deep into that game already my man
Don't I know it amigo.
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What is clearly in very short supply in the hobby are morals, ethics, conviction and a backbone...big wallets are not an issue.
The lesson we have learned is that morals and ethics are for the filthy poor plebe trash.
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The lesson we have learned is that morals and ethics are for the filthy poor plebe trash.
Don't forget single, overweight and white, the card collector demographic. It's self.loathing

Im not racist, I Hate everyone the same
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Don't forget single, overweight and white, the card collector demographic. It's self.loathing

Im not racist, I Hate everyone the same
Shit, I'm only one of the three. Got to step my game up.
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Old 05-26-2024, 08:20 PM
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Right now the perp's face is matching his hands after being caught red-handed with the graded card loot.

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Could anyone make an appropriate baseball card for this turd? Do I hear an Elf giggling in the bullrushes.
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Damn, Darren, I want one of those! But I think you should # to 54, one for each card this assclown stole.

I see that the perp is a young, fat, slovenly white guy...in other words, a typical card show attendee.
Yeap, that would be a normal hobby lineup.
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Yeap, that would be a normal hobby lineup.
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I would argue he's not slovenly, he's rather neatly put together.
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Could anyone make an appropriate baseball card for this turd? Do I hear an Elf giggling in the bullrushes.
Darren (JollyElm) came up with a pretty good prototype for a possible card in post # 908.


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