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Old 06-19-2024, 06:00 PM
deweyinthehall deweyinthehall is offline
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Default 1986 Topps - Part II

I was preparing to tackle the 1972 set, something I am very much looking forward to, but before I have that fun, I wanted to force myself to do a little straightening up on the sets I've already covered.

I owe a lot to members of this board who have helped out with information and photographs.

For 1986, what is still unknown, as far as I can tell, and information I would still like to have, is:

1) Any information on the grand prize of a trip the 1987 spring training site - I know it's a stretch, but what the heck.

2) Any images or information on grocery display trays and cases - was there the standard 2 or 3 tray case and a large 100+ pack case that could be turned into a story display?

3) One very helpful friend provided images of wax cases and boxes shipped for sale at Price Club. He also provide these case/box images - does anyone know where these may have been sold?

4) Looking for anything (maker, quality, etc.) on those collectors sheets they were selling off wrapper panels for years.

5) Case image/information the 99 cent 50-card jumbo packs (which as was helpfully point out consisted of 2 individually wrapper 25-card cellos).

6) Factory sets -
I discovered the commodity code on the full color, illustrated variety
matched the 16 set case, so I assume that's how those were shipped. The
case has a shipping label to a card shop in Kansas, so the full color boxes
were available from dealers and perhaps retail locations as well.

Another set case I have an image of shows a commodity code that doesn't
resemble the code on the brown cardboard box sets, so I assume this case
held the white boxes.

Still no information on case details of the Brown boxes, and still would like
clarification on the sale points of the three varieties.

7) Could use a image of a Tiffany Traded set case.

Because I'm obviously crazy, I decided to ID and track the associated commodity codes for all the packaging as well. Someone please tell me if this has already been done. If not, here is what I have, and what I am missing, from 1986:



Wax Case: 362-86
Wax Case Price Club: 362-PC (sticker)
Wax Case Unk.: 362-86J (sticker)
Wax Box: 1-362-70-01-6
Wax Wrapper: 1&2/3&4/Sheets 0-362-94-02-6
Wax Wrapper: 5&6/no sheets 0-362-94-01-6

Cello Case: 372-86
Cello Box 1-372-37-01-5
Cello Wrapper: 0-372-54-01-6

Rack Case (3): 981-86
Rack Case (6): 971-86
Rack Box: 1-034-37-01-5
Rack Wrapper (3): 0-981-67-01-6
Rack Wrapper (6): 0-971-67-01-7 - I Assume this is from the 6 box case as the 971 matches. This appears to be an early use of the 1987 rack wrappers given the '7'

Grocery Case: ? (perhaps more than 1 if a large 100+ pack case was made)
Grocery Display Tray: ?
Grocery Pack: 0-458-66-01-6

Jumbo Case: ?
Jumbo Box: ?
Jumbo Wrapper: 0-373-54-01-6

Vending Box: ?
Vending Case: 951-86

Factory Set Brown: 2-398-51-01-3
Factory Set White: X 944 XX XX X(a guess as 944 appears on the other case)
Factory Set Color: 1-970-25-02-6
Factory Set Case Brown: 398-86(??) - Assumption
Factory Set Case White: 944-86D(?) - Likely
Factory Set Case Color: 970-86

Tiffany Set: 1-952-0-6
Tiffany Set Case: 952-6

Traded Set: 1-890-0-6
Traded Set Case: 890-86

Tiffany Traded Set: 991-06
Tiffany Traded Set Case: 991-86(??) - Assumption.

Happy to provide any images as to the basis for any of this if requested.
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Old 06-20-2024, 09:27 AM
tulsaboy tulsaboy is offline
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FYI, for the grocery display trays, the product code wasn't a 1986 specific code. The red trays that hold grocery racks from 1981-1986 came with two different bottoms. One had a 1980 product code, as the original use for these red trays was the 1980 Topps baseball wax racks that had three wax packs in a rack wrapper. The other style is blank on the bottom with no product code at all. There weren't any with 1986 dated product codes.

Just like the other years, the grocery racks did come in a 3 tray case, 24 racks to a tray. There was a display case, but I'm not certain how many racks it held.

You are correct about the 1986 racks coming in both 1986 dated wrappers as well as 1987 dated wrappers. The 1987 dated wrappers are far harder to find, though they carry no price premium over the 1986 dates. I think it's fair to say that Topps had leftover 1986 cards and had already started printing the 1987 wrappers, and so just put 86 cards in 87 wrappers.

kevin
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Old 06-20-2024, 04:56 PM
deweyinthehall deweyinthehall is offline
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Commodity Code Sleuths:

Kevin sent me this image which is a piece of board torn from a 1986 Grocery Display Case (one of those cases that converts into a large store display). I

At the bottom you can see the code: 2-469-38-01-6

Cases carried just the XXX-XX code (usually) and packs/wrappers have the longer ones like this.

Because in 1983 the large display case was coded 469-83, I assume that the large 1986 display case was actually coded 469-86.

All the individual grocery packs from 1986 that I've seen are coded 0-458-66-01-6.

So what of the 2-469-38-01-6 code? Would they code the packs that came in these large display cases differently than those in that came in the standard 24 ct. trays?
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