Ohtani CARDS are Mostly UNDERVALUED

[packs]

I've heard that argument made before but when I think of Jeter I mostly think of a stone. The guy didn't say a lot, didn't reveal a lot about himself, and wasn't really out there bringing attention to himself either.

Trout doesn't put himself out there either. I don't think it has anything to do with language. It's personality.

[brad31]

Agree Ohtani will be hard to beat as the best player in the 21st Century if he stays healthy as a hitter. If he doesn’t pitch there is no reason to think he stays at DH. He is a phenomenal athlete and could easily learn to play a position once he is allowed to throw again.

I think he pitches again. If he has say 5 more seasons as a pitcher and hitter and pitches like he did before - his value is so far above the next guy you simply cannot compare. We are witnessing an all-timer and really should enjoy it as long as we can. Unlikely we live to see another player like him.

[Centauri]

Some crusty old heads who don’t want their guy’s unique place taken away. But if you are not making an effort to watch Ohtani play, you are missing out. He is elite at pitching and hitting, and there only been one other player with that ability in MLB history. He is not dabbling into pitching, it’s not a circus sideshow. He is the real deal from both sides. Enjoy it while it lasts, don’t miss out.

[bk400]

Regardless of what Ohtani does going forward on the field, his most enduring legacy will likely be to change what Americans and Japanese think is possible with respect to baseball athletes. He's changed the paradigm.

I hope to see a lot of Ohtani wannabes come through the youth / HS / minor league ranks.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by bk400

Regardless of what Ohtani does going forward on the field, his most enduring legacy will likely be to change what Americans and Japanese think is possible with respect to baseball athletes. He's changed the paradigm.

I hope to see a lot of Ohtani wannabes come through the youth / HS / minor league ranks.

Keep an eye out for Roki Sasaki as the next big thing coming from Japan. Who knows what will happen but he has been something else for his age.

[Exhibitman]

One further bit of statistical perspective: Only three players (minimum 500 plate appearances) have finished a season with an OPS+ above 230: Barry Bonds (2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004), Babe Ruth (1920, 1921 and 1923) and Ted Williams (1941 and 1957). Ohtani currently sits at 175.

Oh, and Greg is right. on both points: "[1] He's probably the most recognizable name of any active baseball player in the world, is considered the best player the last few years by anyone who isn't a Yankees fan, outsells pretty much every other veteran player and the player he is most often compared to is the one and only Babe Ruth. How can he possibly be undervalued? [2] He doesn't need to get more pumped up hype to make money off his cards."

[Lorewalker]

I am not into the modern stuff and therefore not an expert but his cards are not in short supply in any grade (and if they were it would be a manufactured rarity) and therefore not seeing that the cards are undervalued. I suppose as he continues to dominate in MLB, the prices will rise but not sure there is a single person alive who is not aware of his stature in baseball.

Personally I would still take a Williams, Aaron, Mays, etc rookie over an Ohtani.

[molenick]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

One further bit of statistical perspective: Only three players (minimum 500 plate appearances) have finished a season with an OPS+ above 230: Barry Bonds (2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004), Babe Ruth (1920, 1921 and 1923) and Ted Williams (1941 and 1957). Ohtani currently sits at 175. "

Coincidentally, Judge's OPS+ was 230 before the start of today's game. I can't comment on card prices or quality of autographs, but I am glad to be able to witness two amazing seasons taking place in the same year.