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Old 08-31-2025, 05:55 AM
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My work email address is different from my person email address. So send as many work emails to me you want over the weekend, I'll check 'em Monday morning

p.s. hilarious rant from Wally lol
And that would be perfectly fine. And you'd get bonus points for not whining to HR about the mental stress that I am causing you.

So I decided to just email another young colleague -- a young woman who was a D1 rower. So not weak mentally.

She responded, completed the work (a few hours' worth), and sent it to back to me already (Sunday night where I am right now). Good to know there are still some ass kickers out there.

I'm going to ask her tomorrow if she knows who Wally Backman is. Even odds says she does. Let's Go Mets!!
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Old 08-31-2025, 06:33 AM
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Setting boundaries is mature and so is being direct with someone who is bothering you. Those aren’t weak traits but you’re trying to paint the person as weak because they put their foot down.

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Old 08-31-2025, 07:01 AM
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Setting boundaries is mature and so is being direct with someone who is bothering you. Those aren’t weak traits but you’re trying to paint the person as weak because they put their foot down.
With all earnestness, I see where you are coming from.

I guess I just don't understand why someone just starting out would be so concerned about work life balance. When someone sends you an email over the weekend, that's an opportunity to show your initiative and highlight your responsiveness. At least it was when I was his age. It's not a mental health assault. Careers may not be the entirety of someone's identity, but especially for young people just starting out, I would have thought it would at least be an important part.
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Old 08-31-2025, 07:06 AM
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Everyone entering the workforce should have the same respect for work life balance. When somebody is dying they don’t ever wish they could get just a little more time to work.

The expression is you only LIVE once. Not you only work once.

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Old 08-31-2025, 07:56 AM
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And that would be perfectly fine. And you'd get bonus points for not whining to HR about the mental stress that I am causing you.

So I decided to just email another young colleague -- a young woman who was a D1 rower. So not weak mentally.

She responded, completed the work (a few hours' worth), and sent it to back to me already (Sunday night where I am right now). Good to know there are still some ass kickers out there.

I'm going to ask her tomorrow if she knows who Wally Backman is. Even odds says she does. Let's Go Mets!!
So someone complained to HR about you and then you decided to do the exact same thing involving someone else. You must be a popular guy at work.
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Old 08-31-2025, 08:04 AM
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OP appreciates and commends the other employee who did not stand up for themselves and allowed their private time to be co-opted by a work colleague but describes the employee who stood up for themselves and was assertive in the situation as weak willed. Seems backwards to me. You might not like the request but a weak person wouldn’t have made it in my opinion.

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Old 08-31-2025, 04:39 PM
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So someone complained to HR about you and then you decided to do the exact same thing involving someone else. You must be a popular guy at work.
Interesting. And perhaps another fundamental disagreement. It's not my job to be popular at work; it's my job to deliver results and help instill less experienced colleagues with the skills and mentality to succeed in what is considered to be a fairly competitive field.

We'll see who gets further in his or her career, D1 Rower or BCC HR. If you don't think career success is relevant to long term happiness and security or if you define career success differently, well, to each his own.

Perhaps there will come a day when you can get promoted and paid well while perfectly protecting your work life balance. But I don't think that day is ever coming, at least not in competitive fields in a capitalist society.

To bring it back to baseball, how much would you pay to watch MLB baseball players whose time on the clock in a traditional corporate sense (training, travel, physio, weights, film, batting practice, etc.) were limited, by statute, to 40 hours per week?

These are grown men playing a children's game with no real life consequences, and we are fine if they have no work life balance for at least 6 months out of the year and probably for many years before that when they are trying to just make the big leagues.

Why should our more pedestrian industries be treated any differently? Isn't it a good thing if doctors, lawyers, accountants, financial advisers, money managers, car mechanics, and carpenters also strive to be the very best in their fields? Happy to be challenged on this, but I don't think there is any field where you can be the best while putting in the minimum 40, especially when you're just starting out and learning the ropes.
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And that would be perfectly fine. And you'd get bonus points for not whining to HR about the mental stress that I am causing you.



So I decided to just email another young colleague -- a young woman who was a D1 rower. So not weak mentally.



She responded, completed the work (a few hours' worth), and sent it to back to me already (Sunday night where I am right now). Good to know there are still some ass kickers out there.



I'm going to ask her tomorrow if she knows who Wally Backman is. Even odds says she does. Let's Go Mets!!


Yeah, this is the best part for me. The poor soul who felt compelled to do weekend work based on your certainly unwelcome email, now has an equally unwelcome conversation with you about Wally Backman in her future. Keep kicking ass, bud.
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Yeah, this is the best part for me. The poor soul who felt compelled to do weekend work based on your certainly unwelcome email, now has an equally unwelcome conversation with you about Wally Backmam in her future. Keep kicking ass, bud.
"This guy at work wanted to talk to me about some baseball player from 40 years ago and I was like, dude, just don't send me work emails on the weekends anymore."
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Is this somebody's troll account? Between this, the threads proclaiming Soto's 15 year deal a failure after 2 weeks, declaring Ohtani's career over because a children's book was published it's difficult to believe this is a serious person. The statements are so over the top stupid lol
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Old 08-31-2025, 06:24 PM
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Is this somebody's troll account? Between this, the threads proclaiming Soto's 15 year deal a failure after 2 weeks, declaring Ohtani's career over because a children's book was published it's difficult to believe this is a serious person. The statements are so over the top stupid lol
I missed the voice of wisdom and truth from the thread. Welcome back!
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Old 08-31-2025, 06:26 PM
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I missed the voice of wisdom and truth from the thread. Welcome back!
Why aren't you working? Go be the best! Show these young losers how it's done, put in that OT and don't have a personal life or take weekend days off. Hop to it
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Why aren't you working? Go be the best! Show these young losers how it's done, put in that OT and don't have a personal life or take weekend days off. Hop to it
Ok, I'll engage with you.

What do you find "over the top stupid" with what I asserted in Post 17 of this thread (which captures the heart of the issue)?
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