Is PSA now using AI to grade most cards?

[ValKehl]

Dean, the link in your post takes me to an article that says AI can pass the CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst) Exam in minutes, not the CPA (Certified Public Accountant) Exam.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Dean, the link in your post takes me to an article that says AI can pass the CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst) Exam in minutes, not the CPA (Certified Public Accountant) Exam.

and I'm pretty sure AI has to take the test "open book" Without being to allowed rifle through a bunch of reference material AI would just sit there.

People still don't seem to understand that AI is really not the right term. For the most part what people are referring to as AI is simply a search engine on steroids that then reports back what it found in a small bite.

It's not "thinking" or "intelligent" It's only as good as the data it's given to pull from, and it needs TONS of it to even approach accuracy and even then I think we can all point to plenty of examples where AI is so dumb that it basically just makes something up because it misinterprets, or relies on bad data.

the need for MASSIVE amounts of data make AI grading a tough proposition. I won't say impossible because things advance so quickly it. There may be some break through in the next few years that circumvents the challenges I mentioned. Of course then Skynet is my worry, not card grading.

[Huck]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Dean, the link in your post takes me to an article that says AI can pass the CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst) Exam in minutes, not the CPA (Certified Public Accountant) Exam.

Val,

My apologies. I heard CPA and that is what stuck in my head. In the Agriculture world there are machines that scan and blow puffs of air to keep grains of rice deemed cosmetically unacceptable from going forward in the process. I believe someone out there can figure out a way to scan cards to speed up the grading time.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Huck

Val,

I believe someone out there can figure out a way to scan cards to speed up the grading time.

If you have not read posts 17, 18 and 19 on this thread https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...hlight=machine, you might want to. The member who posted it has been banned however his expertise in this space is very impressive. It is just one person's opinion but a compelling explanation.

[Huck]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

If you have not read posts 17, 18 and 19 on this thread https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...hlight=machine, you might want to. The member who posted it has been banned however his expertise in this space is very impressive. It is just one person's opinion but a compelling explanation.

Thanks for the link. Very informative.

[Zach Wheat]

Thanks for the link to Travis' original post. I had forgetten about his analysis which brings up a number of good points

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

Thanks for the link to Travis' original post. I had forgetten about his analysis which brings up a number of good points

I miss Travis

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Huck

Val,

My apologies. I heard CPA and that is what stuck in my head.

I'm sure that most any AI could also pass the CPA exam. You only need 75% on each of the 4 sections to pass, which is a pretty weak score, considering my lowest score was 98.

As someone mentioned above, the AI has the advantage of basically being open book, because it can refer to source materials with all the answers. The CPA exam does not require much (or any really) in the way of critical thinking and reasoning. The vast majority of the questions are multiple choice, and are easily identifiable even by a fairly dumb machine with ready access to the source material.

In theory, any decent computer with access to the source material shouldn't take more than a few seconds to blaze through the questions and answer them correctly, and that's probably moving slow.

But passing a text-based exam based on having access to the source material is a long ways away from actually being able to grade cards.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Dean, the link in your post takes me to an article that says AI can pass the CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst) Exam in minutes....

I wrote the CFA III exam in the same sitting as did my boss the Research Manager back in 1981. Guess who passed?

In fact if you cut the connection of an AI bot to the internet, I'm sure I would have destroyed any such bot in a CFA exam back when I was young and had a mind like a razor.