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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: vetekbob
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=73435&item=5186704478&rd=1 |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: Tim James
This one doesn't look that bad to me.I've handled a fair # of early Topps and Bowman,so I was just wondering what stands out to you that this is a reprint? As to my opinion,I would first point to the fact that it is not slabbed.Is there anything that you would add to that? |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: dennis
the card is real. also, i think broadway rick is thru with shill bidding. just wonder why it's not graded? |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: Tim James
I think the key to spotting real cards from this set is the "recycled" paper look on the reverse.There is a certain gray there that would be hard to duplicate.I would also add,if you have seen a slabbed card of this kind,the black border has distinct variations in the corners.Look at other scans and see if they are the same.Reprints tend to clean up things like this. |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: steve k
I don't trust this seller as far as I can throw him. You'll buy the Mantle, it'll be fake, he'll come up with some excuse not to give your money back, and so what he gets a neg but he's got your money. Don't walk, RUN away from this auction. |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: Tim Mayer
i am pretty sure the card is good, but i passed because of the seller rep and because I figured it has been recolored or trimmed or has a hole or something to it, otherwise why wouldn't it be graded..others said it but thats was my initial impression... |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: vetekbob
I have been checking over this card as best one card with just a scan and while it looks to be fine on the front and back, I feel that this card will not pass inspection via psa, sgc, or gai and I feel there will be an issue with the size of the card. Granted I dont have a 10x loop with the card in hand obviously. If a card has been messed with in any way, to me personally that is the same as putting an unoriginal card up unless the seller states clearly in the auction that there was a problem with the card. Others will probably disagree with me on there being a problem with the card and if it turns out later that I was wrong, then I will gladly eat my words and take the heat. |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: Tim James
I wouldn't disagree with you on this one.The neg. feedback in the last 12 months took a sharp rise.In most cases,the cards that are being passed off as real but are reprints,are printed for the enjoyment of the collector by companys that distribute them as reprints.Original printing flaws tend to be "cleaned".Don't get me wrong,I wouldn't bid on this,but if you are familiar with printing and card stock you can spot these things quickly. |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: Anonymous
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=5186704478 |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: al davis
the lower part of the right-hand side of the card has been shaved. if you close your eyes you can smell the barbasol. |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: jay behrens
The seller is properly known as Broadway Rick's Scam Zone. He was busted for shilling his auctions and featured prominently on MSNBC and other networks for his shady character. When I firt got back in the hobby I bought a number of m116s from him. When I discovered they were trimmed, he didn't even flinch when I demanded a partial rebate for the trimming. He just cut me a check adn did apologize for not noting they were trimmed. This guy is too savvy to leave all the money on the table that slabbing this card would bring. There is something obviously wrong that he is not disclosing. |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: vetekbob
The seller states that the high bidder can only return the card if it wont get graded by PSA or whomever but he didnt state what constitutes grading. For all the high bidder knows, they mean graded as in a psa 4, 5 or what have you when in the sellers obtuse wording and mind they may mean presenting it to the grading company is in fact grading of the card and if it does come back as trimmed as I think it will, the buyer has no recourse that I can see given the wording or the lack there of in the auction listing. |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: David Yoken
Not only is the right border trimmed, but the black line on the top does not jet |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: Julie
The bidding pattern cannot be asertained, because if the repeat bidder were bidding to keep up with another bidder, only the other bidder's high bid would show AT THE END. Yiou can see the winning bidder bid BEFORE the other guys bid up under him. |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: Andy
The scan appears to be of a real type 1 '52 Topps Mantle. There are 2 variations of this card. The right border does not stick out on a type 1 Mantle. That is the type 2 card only. The scan is of a real card. Now, it still could be shaved, colored, pressed, cleaned, soaked, etc etc etc. |
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1952T Mantle on Ebay being touted as original
Posted By: dan mckee
This card is real but one poster is correct, something is wrong with or Rick would have had it graded. He is no idiot but would not pass on a fake as real. I would say plan on getting a 1 or an authentic grade on it. |
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