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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Seth B.
Good article on Ty Cobb at mlb.com. I hope this isn't off topic; I think it's fairly interesting. He debuted 100 years ago this very tuesday. The Detroit Free Press lamented, "If he gets away with a .275 [average] he will be satisfying everybody." |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Robert
I put this up this morning and nobody even responded |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Seth B.
oops, should have just scrolled down! sorry for the duplicate posting... |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: joe maples
I also posted something a couple days ago under Ty Cobb Anniversary, check it out, 1st payment to Cobb for $7.00 in expense ledger. |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: cmoking
No doubt he was one of the greatest players ever in the game. And he had a colorful and nasty personality, so that made him even more interesting as a player. However, is he well liked? He was such a mean and crude person, at least by many accounts I've read. I can admire his great baseball feats and talent, his feisty nature on the field. But at the same time, I find it hard to be excited about any of his cards, because of the person he was. Does it bother anyone else that his card is a key card in many vintage sets? |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Scott Elkins
Fact - we all know what Cobb accomplished on the field! |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: joe maples
A lot of Cobb's bad publicity came from Al Stumps' book, Cobb, written when Cobb was a very ill man. The book was basically Cobbs life in his last 10 months when he was dying of cancer. He also donated $100,000.00 to build the Ty Cobb healthcare sytem which was the start of the hospital in 1949. Donations of that size are appreciated today, that size in 1949 is gigantic. He is and always will be the greatest player in baseball history. |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: ErikV
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: cmoking
Scott & Joe, |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Anonymous
As Mr. Cobb stands and stares at us in Evik Vs photo above, his left "throwing" hand is in a fielding glove??? I don't think the image is reversed, the guy with the long jacket in the middle of the top row, he has a pocket correctly positioned over the left breast... |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Andy Baran
Ty Cobb batted left handed, but he threw right handed. The glove is on the correct hand. |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Bryan
Ty Cobb beating a black security personnel at a hotel in Ohio because he wouldn't let Ty use the elavator after hours. He had to travel to the 1909 World Series in Pittsburg via Canada to avoid an arrest warrant in Ohio. |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Mike W
I'm glad you sited some instances of Cobb's crazy antics, Bryan. Although it was common back then, he was a racist- and an all around jerk… and his mom killing his dad when he was younger doesn’t justify his behavior (just explains it). But these accounts about Cobb’s personality are part of what attracts people to him. People are always intrigued by eccentric personalities... especially when it is supplemented by greatness. Mozart, Beethoven, Jim Morrison, artists Van Gogh & Jackson Pollach, and yes, Ty Cobb. |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: joe maples
cmoking, some info I posted came from the Daily Press & Argus dated August 30, 2005, a michigan paper printed and distributed about 20 miles northwest of Ann Arbor. |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: jay behrens
Scott, can you spare use the "liberal media" rant. Save that label for the politcal boards. |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Scott Elkins
The statement was appropriate to this thread, b/c we were discussing Ty Cobb and how he is portrayed today. And, who does this portrayal - mostly the "LIBERAL" media. |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: jay behrens
Well, crying about the liberal media makes you sound like one of those idiotic Dittoheads, and I know you are much smarter than that. I'd go off on my own rant about you are wrong about the media being liberal, but this board is not the place. Suffice it to say, your point would have been made without having to throw in a politcal term. I doubt James Carvil (sp) and others of the "liberal" media really don't give a rats arse about Cobb and his legacy. |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: cmoking
Thanks Joe, I'll look up that book you mentioned and try to hunt down the Daily Press & Argus article. |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Scott Elkins
as soon as I receive another e-mail. I don't have it on hand - I apologize. It is a very interesting group (run by Ron Cobb). I was asked to join a couple years back b/c of my e-mail address (tycobb@optidynamic.com). |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Max Weder
Here's the link to the yahoo group |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: cmoking
going through the link that Max provided, I came upon this article: |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Lyle
and a fascinating study of human nature . To combine his unrivaled competitiveness in his baseball exploits , his often untold generosity toward his baseball colleagues, yet his rage directed toward others is a portrait of our own contradictory nature . Thankfully , we often suppress the extreme aspects of this nature . Cobb never did . |
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100 Years of Ty Cobb Today
Posted By: Daniel Bretta
I would recommend to anyone interested in Cobb to read his autobiography "My life in baseball: The true record". While he may gloss over the nasty things that he did, he does explain why he reacted the way he did in many instances. Matty McIntyre was a key instigator in the hazing that Cobb received as a rookie. Most players would have taken the hazing in good nature, but Cobb reacted violently to it which only made his instigators continue with the hazing. I really believe that this shaped his career more than anything. The racism may be a little overblown. It is clear that he felt whites were superior to blacks (he did afterall grow up in the Jim Crow South), but he was very kind to a young black child that had taken residence in Briggs field and he took him home with him for the winter, and he also was fond of a black woman that helped raise him. I'm not saying that Cobb was an angel, but his reputation is certainly overblown. There is no proof that Cobb sharpened his spikes. That was a rumor started by if I remember correctly a Philidelphia journalist after Cobb slid hard into Frank Baker. Cobbs charity went unnoticed and he often did it anonomysly. He even helped out one of his tormenters, Ed Killian when Killian was out of baseball and broke. |
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