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Posted By: Scott Elkins
I am not going to bore you with all the facts about how this person has raised prices on me after deals and done me over the past year. However, I feel that it is the duty of this board to be a watchdog when people are BLATANTLY RIPPED OFF for money or cards! |
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Posted By: David Rosenberg
I will start out by saying, a Police report was filed against Brian Daniels last week for making threats and remarks about my religious affiliation. Thank you for posting a copy of the money order. Now we have his address and can track him down to prosecute. If anyone would like to see the numerous emails Brian Daniels sent to me, I will forward them to you (unedited). However, be warned, they are full of expletives, threats and unsavory racial slurs. We are also filing a Federal hate crimes report with the FBI. If anyone on this board thinks this is a joke, it is not! |
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Posted By: Ken Eccles
Scott,I hope things work out. |
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Posted By: Mark McCleary
Perhaps Brian doesn't have the $500 since he just a exercised a BIN for a $7k e94. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
"Woe...me... |
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Posted By: Scott Elkins
I appreciate the kind words and kind e-mails from all of you! It seems I was not clear in the amount BcD owes me. The amount BcD owes me is the amount of the money order - $882.50. |
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Posted By: Andrew Parks
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Posted By: Scott Elkins
The same was true between myself and BcD at one point. However, when someone BLATANTLY steals from me and deletes me from his server to where I cannot e-mail him regarding my money, I have to cut all ties with the individual. That is why I had to come here to try and work things out and warn people about Daniels. He would not answer my calls and I could not e-mail him to work things out privately. I would have never went public about this situation had he been honest and sent my money or at least communicated with me privately. |
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Posted By: Josh K.
Andrew, |
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Posted By: Anson
I'm going to keep the dirt to myself. However, I will say that Scott has been the ideal person to deal with and I consider him top-notch. I would never worry about getting ripped off or being duped when sending him money or cards. |
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Posted By: Scott Elkins
I know the Postal Service is very strict when it comes to misuse of Money Orders. I plan on talking to the local Post Master about my situation next week to see if there is anything I can do in regards to Mail Fraud. |
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Posted By: Darren J. Duet
The limited dealings I have had with BcD have been somewhat erratic. |
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Posted By: scott ingold
A$$. This whole thread is what everyone of us worries about each time we deal with someone through the mail. Even though this is someone you obviously knew it just shows that there is always risk. What i don't get is if this turd is so well known why do so many continue to deal with him ? |
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Posted By: AParks
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Posted By: scott ingold
For now that is. Just seems that some pretty stand up guy's are backing up Scott. But i personally don't no BcD. Just going on what is said here by some people i respect. |
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Posted By: Mark
I'm not jumping on the bandwagon, Andrew - I have actually posted about BCD in the past only my post was deleted. In open chat, BCD says he's going to "get in my face" at the next local show (we live 50 miles apart) and make me pee my pants. As evidence of his manliness, he's sent me his ultimate fighter biography and told me how much he can bench press. I don't think this board should be used to deter members from attending shows. |
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Posted By: Scott Elkins
AND, I myself would LOVE to hear why Brian has not paid me the money he owes me! However, I don't think it is right for you to blame these people for their views. Most all who have posted here (and several more who have e-mailed me) have not posted their views based solely on my being ripped off for $882.50. They have posted their views based on their experiences with Daniels. |
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Posted By: Nick
Brian posts as marz. I recommend you read through his posts on threads there. Some of them are quite interesting. |
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Posted By: leon
You must put your name on each post in this thread unless I know you. thanks.....moderator dude |
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Posted By: anonymousdave
Scott. |
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Posted By: MW
Unless we know everything there is to know about others, how can we possibly judge them? |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
vague about the things BCD has said or done is that--we can't repeat most of them without ruining our or others' reputations! (also, would be deleted for language by moderator dude...). This is not to say he doesn't need understanding. Every madman needs understanding! |
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Posted By: andy becker
mike are you kidding? this guy is throwing racial/religious slurs and you say he needs a little love. |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
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Posted By: anonymousdave
post removed..i guess the other side of said story should be heard.. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Brian and I have had our ups and downs over the years and while we are getting along fine now, he has exhibited in the past a very short fuse. I don't know him well enough to explain why. |
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Posted By: Scott Elkins
I can certainly understand the point you were trying to make. However, as Julie stated, this is not something new with Daniels unfortunately. This has been going on with him since the Full Count Board days and involving several individuals. |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
know. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
But I think Wes' takes the cake... |
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Posted By: Rick
He is an odd cookie. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
I wish to be removed of this area and the parties involved. thanks |
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Posted By: Scott Elkins
If it is true, I seriously hate that his daughter is sick - that would be terible. Children are wonderful. Also, it was very mean what Daniels said about Wesley's child before his child was born. The bad thing about something like that is that you can never believe what Daniels says. So, I really have no way of knowing if the story was true or fabricated for sympathy (which would be very bad). |
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Posted By: Scott Forrest
Edited....because my original response was colored for my strong personal dislike for the poster. If anyone wants to know what I posted originally, just use your imagination and multiply by five. |
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Posted By: Bob
Leon, I think it's time to lock this thread. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
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Posted By: leon
Quite to the contrary I believe in free speech to "right before" the point of being detrimental to the welfare of the board. Not quite there yet, imho... I really do want to try to let folks say what they want if they will stand behind it. As long as it stays in this one thread and doesn't spill into others, I am cool (at least for now).....who knows when will be too much?.....I wish this whole thing wouldn't have got dragged onto the board, personally. But I don't always make a decision based on how "I" feel.....there's a lot of gray area's lately and they can be difficult....I would generally prefer to error on the side of "not" censoring...as has been my belief from day 1...Yes, I am sure many will say there's been a lot of censoring lately but as anyone can see there could be much more......regards all |
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Posted By: Scott Elkins
Really - I would LOVE to hear Brian's side as to why he has not paid me!!!!!! Again, I could show Brian's side on the board, but will not, as we are not allowed to post private e-mails and I promised Leon none of that. However, if I posted the e-mails, as many of you know, this would not be a thread for anyone under 18! |
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Posted By: Scott Forrest
<<Scott, if you or anyone else doubts my claim, I have posted the money order receipt I purchased>> |
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Posted By: Scott Elkins
THEN, I have the money order receipt as well dated the next day - shouldn't need more solid evidence than that. PLUS, Daniels has not posted otherwise. YOU KNOW IF I WAS LYING, DANIELS WOULD HAVE BEEN BLASTING ME FROM THE START OF THIS THREAD!!!!!!!! |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Look, if Brian had any interest in clearing the air he would have posted his defense here. Regardless, to threaten other board members or wish that their children are born with birth defects is pathetic and laughable. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
I explained an earlier ambigous post that the poster didn't want explained...THANK YOU FOR DELETING THE POST, LEON! (I'm serious!) My "summary" of people's complaints was entirely un-called for. |
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Posted By: leon
I deleted your post as you had brought someone else into the thread that didn't really want to be here. Yes, he had posted in it before and asked me to delete it too. I did. You can say whatever you want about Brian, Scott, or me...or whomever....but please don't bring other folks into it saying.." well, so and so said this or that". I know what you were saying but that person really didn't want to be involved with it. As for this thread it is very near the end of it's life. I am getting tired of it. Brian has chosen not to come into the battle and I can't say I completely blame him. I am not taking any sides here. Like I said before I have dealt with Brian and Scott and continue to treat each of them as hobby friends....I am not dismissing the fact that some horrible emails were sent between different parties either. I can barely moderate this board let alone private stuff between individuals. My main concern is for the welfare of the board and I am near the end of my rope with the bickering. ...best regards |
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Posted By: Scott Forrest
<<You know Daniels owes me the money Forrest - you simply hate me (and a lot of other people as well by the sounds of your posts) and want to start trouble. I am not falling for you trying to start a fight, as I promised Leon I would keep this thread to the subject matter!>> |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
THANK YOU, and I meant it...not so much for the thing you deleted my post for, as for some of the other things I said...you know what I always say about limit bids (as opposed to snipes): you're just DARING someone to step over a line, and they usually do. A board member once left a huge limit bid on the N173 Radbourne "middle finger extended" at Sotheby's..he couldn't wait until the end of the auction...it was, he said, more than anyone in his right mind would have paid for the card. He got outbid... |
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Posted By: Ken Eccles
AGREE WITH BOB |
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Posted By: David Rosenberg
I did not use dirty words or make threats. Maybe you are not talking about me? I will leave it up the the FBI to decide if action is necessary after carefully viewing ALL of the communications and the fact Daniels emailed me my address with threats. We have never done business before so to me this makes me fearful of my life and families life. This is not a joke and going public with this information just in the rare chance something does happen to me or my loved ones. Thank you (most of you) all for your concern and help providing phone #s, addresses and other pertinent data the FBI agent requested. |
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Posted By: scott ingold
This is a friggen message board about old cards. Now we have the FBI getting involved. God i hope in these time's they have more important things to do than chase someone for name calling. |
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Posted By: Scott Elkins
I tried numerous times to resolve this matter with Daniels before my first post. He wouldn't even talk about it. I even told him I would send the difference between what he owes me and the money he wanted for the Matty. What did he do, went up another $400 on the Matty and told me that was his final offer! I thought once of doing that deal, but thought why send him more money and maybe never get the card I paid for. Also, as someone else has stated, it seemed like he was holding me hostage for the $882.50! Anyway, just wanted to let people know that my posts were merely a near last resort on this matter. The last resort being legal action, which I am almost at the point in doing - in fact, I will start next week after I complete sending out cards to board members and other deals this week. |
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