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rarest tobacco card?
Posted By: steve
does anybody know just what the actual rarest tobacco card really is,is it honus wagner t206 or ty cobb with ty cobb back or is it someone else from another tobacco card set? |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
1 of 1 |
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Posted By: Robert
Rarest and most expensive are totally different measures, there are a lot of cards that there are only one known example of in existence. Tango Eggs for example: |
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Posted By: Jim Manos
To the best of my knowledge there is only 1 of each card maybe 2 ?? There are alot more rare cards than the Wagner. The Wagner is just the most expensive. It is called supply and demand. Victory's and the others mentioned above are very few in supply but they don't have the demand of a Wagner. The Doyle and Plank as you know are more scarce than the Wagner in the same set. I would say there are 100 examples of the T206 Wagner. |
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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Supply and demand. It just takes two high rollers that really want the item to establish an inflated baseline value for a card. |
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Posted By: Mike
I recently purchased a Jimmie Foxx card from Leon where there is only one known. There are many many cards where there is only one or possibly two known. It doesn't make them more desirable than some of the "BIG GUN" cards. Like many have said, it is supply and demand. |
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Posted By: leon
By definition the rarest tobacco card (as that is what is asked) is the T231 Fans Cigarettes card of Baker. Of any ACC catalogued set it is the rarest. There is this card and a xerox of Bigby as the only known ones from the set (2 total and 1 physical card). By definition 1 known would be as rare as they come. As for other unique cards in sets there are hundreds....best regards |
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Posted By: Tim S.
Not tobacco but what about this beauty.... |
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Posted By: Wesley
Very nice Tim! |
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rarest tobacco card?
Posted By: Harry Wallace (HW)
Jim, |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
They are two separate questions. I defy anyone out there to find me other examples of some of the exhibit cards listed on my site. I would be willing to bet you cannot. Doesn't make them expensive, merely rare. Edited to add: Damnit! |
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Posted By: Gilbert Maines
There are some t-cards which are the only representatives of the set which they belong to. Leon has one, Hal recently sold one, I believe. And therte may be others. |
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Posted By: fkw
1/1............ Unique and obviously as rare as they get, are the 1921 Herpolsheimer's cards, 69 different known, all 1/1. |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
when you find a card that was uncatalogued, especially when it destroys a popular assumption about the set. I had that experience with a T220 Mecca card. I found the 26th silver bordered card--the set had been treated for ages as having only 25 silver bordered cards. To date I've still not seen another of the card I located, so it is a 1 of 1 as far as I know. Edited to add: I just got it back from SGC, encapsulated 20 fair, which is appropriate. I wanted it slabbed only to protect it. |
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Posted By: JimB
Harry, |
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Posted By: Jim Manos
There was study by Mastro's at the Cleveland National that they were aware of 68 Wagners. I know of others not on there list. I would say 80 to 100. But I do think there are more than the Plank T206 card. But I have no more evidence than that so Yes I can(rarely) be wrong. Kidding. |
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Posted By: William Heitman
#106 Lajoie was printed up on a 25 card sheet. The other 24 cards on the sheet were the 1934 Goudey high numbers. The card also carried a 1934 copyright notice on its back. It seems that Goudey printed up the #106's in response to numerous complaints from, among others, Jefferson Burdick, about the lack of a #106 in the previous year's set. But interestingly, #106 is not in the style of either the 1933's or the 1934's. And Lajoie would be an anomaly in either set since the sets contain no players who had been out of baseball for so many years. The truth is that #106 is a 1934 Goudey one card set. And it is truly doubtful that any #106s ever saw the inside of a pack of gum. |
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Posted By: fkw
Another interesting card is the 1933 Goudey #106 Leo Durocher card (proof). I find it as interesting as the Lajoie if not more. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I think 50 to 60 Wagner cards underestimates what is out there. 80 to 120 seems more realistic to me. I actually know and have met 3 owners, have talked to another on the phone, and emailed with at least one more. And I don't think I'm all that networked into the hobby. It is difficult for me to believe that I know the whereabouts of 10% of the cards, if there really are only 50. |
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Posted By: Aaron Seefeldt
Can't get more rare than 1 known: |
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Posted By: fkw
I have scans of 18 different T206 Wagners (including the proof). I just started saving them about a year ago. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Bill Heitman |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Great info, Ted, thanks. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Frank |
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Posted By: Scott Gross
Adam, |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
This is a "one of one". Was once mine. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
FKW, |
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Posted By: fkw
No, but maybe I'll start. I have a few Cobb/Cobb's that are pictured in some old auction catalogs. |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
Found it last year |
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Posted By: bruce dorskind
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Posted By: leon
With all due respect I think your recollection is probably wrong on the T231 Fans card(s). Everyone I have ever spoken too, including where I got the card (Lew), has said this is it. There is only the Xerox of Bigby besides the card I have. I wouldn't be awe struck if another surfaced but until I see one I won't believe it. It is in fact the rarest ACC catalogued card from the rarest ACC set. Please prove me wrong..... best regards |
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Posted By: JimB
Frank, |
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Posted By: Andy Baran
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
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Posted By: Preece1
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Posted By: Anonymous
That's a beaut Hal. How long have you had that. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Tobacco companies have allways been tricky devils, haven't they. These things would have made me want to smoke too, and often. |
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Posted By: JimB
mistake. |
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Posted By: Brett
fkw cool pics ! |
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