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Posted By: Patrick McHugh
Is anyone going to this show? Any reports from today? Opinions on the show. |
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Posted By: mabjae
I think it starts tomorrow. I'll be there tomorrow at about noon and will report on it - if that helps at all. |
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Posted By: Phil Garry
Just got back from the show tonight. Other than all of the major grading companies being there, nothing real exciting for me to report and would not recommend going too far out of your way to attend. I live about 40 minutes and it wasn't worth the trip for me. |
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Posted By: Joe Pelaez
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Posted By: mabjae
Thanks Phil. Any vintage stuff? Cards, photos, memorabilia? |
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Posted By: Danny Grimes
i'll be there saturday. |
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Posted By: Jason L
primarily to drop off some grading submissions |
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Posted By: Danny Grimes
phil, just curious why didnt you like it? ive been there before and by far its the best around for me in my area. What i noticed though, to many vintage dealers shoot for the moon, and alot of newer crap, but im sure thats any show. |
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Posted By: jay wolt
"What show are we talking about?" |
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Posted By: Joe Pelaez
I couldn't figure out what show you were talking about. |
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Posted By: jay wolt
Didn't Gloria Rothstein die a year or so ago? |
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Posted By: Joe Pelaez
I didn't know about Gloria's passing,RIP. |
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Posted By: bruce Dorskind
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Posted By: Pcelli60
Don't you guys get tired of complaining about the same thing every year? Honest to God you're like a bunch of card collecting old ladies. |
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Posted By: rob
Agreed that there is not a huge inventory at the ECN for vintage-philes,but is is well-run with some good dealers there. |
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Posted By: Joe D.
dropping off some submissions to PSA (my first time with PSA). |
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Posted By: boxingbaseballgolf33
Was going to setup at the show but decided to go with my local show instead -the Boston show in November is the better show in the East Coast and Reading(Philly) should be improved from last year I am hoping. I had a plan even just to attend, but got caught up doing too much in one weekend. The two guys that run the show are Brain and Jimmy I believe and have been trying to get the show back on track. |
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Posted By: Joe D.
I always enjoy a weekend in Boston. |
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Posted By: Jimmy
Joe, |
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Posted By: Phil Garry
I remember there was one dealer named Chuck set up right around the center of the room and he has some nice vintage stuff with a lot of American Caramel Cards from the 1920's, etc. |
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Posted By: Joe D.
chuck is a great guy |
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Posted By: Jay
Bruce are exactly right. The show used to be good and now it is horrible. It's a pity that the major show in the New York area cannot attract major dealers. |
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Posted By: Jimmy
Chuck is a great guy to work with, lots of SGC cards and pre-war |
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Posted By: Steve f
I'm up for adoption. Where does one go to meet elderly women collecting prewar? |
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Posted By: Jimmy
I know the Rockford Peaches setup in Boston every year, maybe they can give you a kiss - they have a hugh display of "A League of Their Own" Memorabilia |
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Posted By: Steve Murray
"Bruce are exactly right." |
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Posted By: Jason L
sets up where in White Plains? last name? any signs or identifiers? |
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Posted By: boxingbaseballgolf33
Name is Chuck Blue, and he has about 6 or more cases mostly SGC stuff, he should be there because he is from Conn. so it maybe close for him. |
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Posted By: Tim Newcomb
Not a single ultra-high-grade vintage card to be found! That is, indeed, truly pathetic. I'm surprised you still waste your time going to this or any show, since all of the material worth collecting is now found in the big auctions. |
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Posted By: Jon Canfield
Chuck Blue is a good guy - I've dealt with him many times in the past and bought some various cards from him (I rememebr an E95 Plank, etc). He's usually there with his friend, Tom (I think that's his name). If you get a chance to stop by his table, strike up a conversation and wait and see what Chuck will bring out to show you from his own collection... He always has amazing stuff behind the table. Last time I was there, he brought out a beautiful PSA/DNA 9 Matty check. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Tim- I still haven't figured out the difference between high grade and ultra high grade. I know at the gas station it means higher octane, but the baseball card difference escapes me. |
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Posted By: Jason L
"ultra high grade" takes into account how many similar cards there are in the highest grades, as opposed to "high grade", which simply refers to the high grades (7,8,9 and 10) themselves. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Choppy market is putting it mildly. It's been a tsunami! |
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Posted By: Jason L
do you go to shows anymore, since you hung up your collecting hat, so to speak?...maybe just to do market reconaissance? (spelling?) |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Haven't been to a show in ten years, and likely will never go to another one. They once were fun, then they started to get depressing. Can't explain exactly why, but I would always have a bad feeling walking around and just decided to stop. It's some kind of phobia, I guess. |
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Posted By: Jason L
I tend to have an increased level of buyer's remorse at shows...it is far easier to buy things remotely. Unfortunately, the advent of Ebay has been killing off the "social" and "event" aspects of the hobby, while providing benefits such as access, liquidity, and more accurate pricing (generally). |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Other than the social aspect, I'm not even sure why shows still exist. There are far better business models as you pointed out. I would think shows are among the worst, with prices consistently higher than in any other venue. |
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Posted By: Jimmy
I tend to do fewer shows, but I try to be very fair at shows that I can get to. The New York show would have been too expensive for me at this time to setup, but I do plan to get out more and do some of the better shows. I really only attend Boston and Philly when I can and a few local shows. I feel sometimes it can be depressing at these shows, that is way I spent more time doing listings and research on the internet. |
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Posted By: peter chao
Barry, |
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Posted By: Alan
Barry - |
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Posted By: Danny Grimes
nothing perosnal by all means, but Chuck and I knocked heads a few times and i think hes a total stiff, but he does have a nice selection if his prices come back down to earth. |
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Posted By: peter chao
Guys, |
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Posted By: Danny Grimes
nothing beats the wheeling and dealing here on Net54 but i think the internet has better prices than shows, but there again there might be that one dealer. |
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Posted By: Joseph
This is a sad show, a shadow of its past. I went religiously in the 80s into the 90s. Then came the |
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Posted By: Dave Hornish
I think the East Coast National moniker is misleading. The show sounds like it the same as Jim's other shows in Westchester, which are essentially what once were thought of as large local shows. They are good shows and he is indeed a good guy but they do not have the depth of material you see at EPSCC or, obviously the National. It is maybe a little better than the 2 big Hofstra shows but you get a lot of the same dealers and crowd at both locations. |
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Posted By: Alan
What there needs to be is a NATIONAL pre-war baseball card show (nothing post-war) in the same type of thing they had called a National vintage sports memorabilia & equipment show in the Baltimore & Washington, DC area in the mid & late 1990's. It was fantastic !!! Even though, there were only about 50-70 dealers, it had ONLY vintage memorabilia, uniforms, equipment, etc,... !!! |
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Posted By: Jay
Well, I take back every bad thing I said about the show. I went today and I picked up an incredibly rare group of 27 M101-1s. These are not the more common National Copperplate images but the actual pieces that were issued with the Newspaper. I have included a representative front and back scan. In the group was the very rare Chesbro card; what I believe to be his first representation in a cataloged card set. |
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Posted By: Jay
Edited to remove duplicate posts |
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Posted By: Jay
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Posted By: Jason L
for superior service at the show. |
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