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Posted By: bruce Dorskind
Now that Joe has turned down George's insulting offer, the field appears to be wide |
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Posted By: rob
Mattingly - manager |
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli
I can see George bringing Bill Parcells back to New York. |
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Posted By: Matt
Bruce Dorskind |
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Posted By: anthony
i think the opposite about posada & rivera...posada's a .330+ switch hitter & better than average catcher and jaba or whatever his name is, will move right into rivera's spot...imo |
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Posted By: Cat (ret.)
Mattingly will manage and the only thing I know about their roster is that they will spend a lot of money on guys that used to be able to play good ball. |
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Posted By: George H. Counter
Hey Bruce, can WE be the yanks co-managers? |
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Posted By: David Davis
I hope it is Mattingly. As a lifelong Yankees hater, I would love to see the Mattingly curse continue (no WS during his tenure as a player or coach). As one of Bill Simmons readers once wrote, "somewhere in the Bronx is a 6 year old child wondering if the Yankees will win a World Series in his lifetime". May the curse continue. |
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Posted By: Marc S.
Torre's offer for 2008 was on the order of $30,000 PER GAME, a salary that exceeds that of the average player by more than 150%. He hasn't taken the highest-paid team (by a lot) in baseball to a World Series victory in seven seasons. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Wow- this is the first I heard of it. Is Torre officially gone? |
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Posted By: Jim VB
Barry, They offered him a cut in pay from $7.5 million to $5.0 million plus some bonus money for advancing in the playoffs. Joe said thanks, but no thanks. |
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Posted By: dennis
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071018&content_id=2271234&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb |
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Posted By: Chris Counts
I'd be surprised if they took a chance on Mattingly ... There are no doubt better experienced candidates out there ... What about Davey Johnson? He's managed the Mets to a championship, so New Yorks fans will accept him. And he's had success in Baltimore and Cincy as well ... I suspect Bobby Valentine's name will come up as well, but I think Johnson's a better manager ... |
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Posted By: Jimmy
insulting offer to him and the fans in New York, even though I am a Red Sox fan I respect the team and manager |
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Posted By: barrysloate
$5 million would still have made him the highest paid manager in baseball. |
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Posted By: jay wolt
Barry - and add up to $3 million in incentives |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Len Berman spoke with him today, and part of Torre's response was "enough is enough." |
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Posted By: Paul S
Wow, I'm just hearing it here. I wanted Joe back, but the organization found a smart way to get rid of him. 5M is nothing to sneeze at, so Joe'd look bad if he scoffs too much. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
While I like Torre, $5 mil plus incentives is hardly a slap in the face. He quit because he had enough plain and simple. |
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Posted By: peter chao
It would be a mistake for Mattingly to take the manager's job. So far he's the Yankee's "golden boy." Once Donnie became the manager he may quickly lose that status. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
"It would be a mistake for Mattingly to take the manager's job. So far he's the Yankee's "golden boy." Once Donnie became the manager he may quickly lose that status." |
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Posted By: Erick Lewin
I'm pretty upset about this, but i thought this may happen. Torre was great for New York. I think he'd make a great commisioner, but only time will tell. |
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Posted By: Ed Ivey
New manager. Bucky F. Dent |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
i'm with ya jay & jeff (the offer was far from a slap in the face, he just had enough of george)... |
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Posted By: Ken W.
Sports talk folks around here in SW Missouri think LaRussa will probably remain with St. Louis for one more year. It will depend on who they hire for GM, but that's the scuttlebutt. Frankly, it would be a hoot to see "The Genius" spar with the NY media. LaRussa is about as surly as one can get after a tough loss. |
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Posted By: Dave S
To quote a Yankee, "It ain't over till it's over".. |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
LaRussa is such a genius he'll probably go back to batting his pitcher 8th again, even in the American League. God that guy is an overrated tool. Agree though, it would be fun to have him educate and enlighten the New York fans on how the game should be played. That would provide quite a few yuks (or yucks). |
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Posted By: Fred C
Torre |
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Posted By: peter chao
Jeff, |
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Posted By: Patrick McMenemy
As a diehard Red Sox fan, I have nothing but respect for Joe Torre. He's a class act. This will be the George S's biggest mistake. |
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Posted By: Danny Grimes
Tommy John, send him up from the minors |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Peter, what does being "golden boy" pay? I'm just curious: do "golden boys" just hang out and be "golden boys" the rest of their lives or do they try to get the best managing job in baseball? |
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Posted By: Al Simeone
Come on people lets put that New York twist on it!! The mets change thier mind and take Joe and Willie comes back to the Yankees! What do you think about that!! |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
Girardi would make some sense. It would be interesting to see the dynamic between the supposedly retiring Steinbrenner and a manager who basically told his last boss to STFU. In all events, I think Mattingly and Guidry are gone, maybe others too. |
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Posted By: Ricky Y
I would say Girardi with Mattingly a close second. I just can't see LaRussa dealing with the NY media and with Steinbrenner breathing down his neck although I think he would relish the challenge. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Todd, according to the NY papers, Guidry has already been let go and Mattingly will stay (but that was in a Torre administration). I suppose whoever gets hired now will bring his own staff in. |
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Posted By: peter chao
Guys, |
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Posted By: Fred C
Torre |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Fred, you sound like Billy Mumphrey, a cockeyed optimist who got himself mixed up in the high stakes game of world diplomacy and international intrigue. Torre obviously isn't looking for more money, he's looking for less Steinbrenners. Knowing his recent luck the Steinbrenners will sell the team tomorrow -- to the Dolans. |
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Posted By: Danny Grimes
Im a Yankee fan and i don't want to see Girardi Manager, he'll be a lousy replacement. I hope Mattingly doesnt get it either. He's too unfit. |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
they can now sign Leo Mazzone and coax the Braves into letting Bobby Cox come over to NY |
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli
Fred, you make a good point, twice. Torre still could come back. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Al, fair point. Bobby V. is happy in Japan but no doubt he would come back to the Mets or Yankees -- and Steinbrenner supposedly is in love with the guy. Regardless of what happens, the Yankees need a kick in the ass. I'd rather see Bobby V than Mattingly, though. |
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Posted By: Danny Grimes
i agree jeff, Yankees need someone fiery. Bobby V, someone like Pinella. I blame GM Cashman for everything 2001-present. He needs to butt out and let everything take its course, like that'll ever happen though. |
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Posted By: Scott L
"jaba or whatever his name is, will move right into rivera's spot...imo" |
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Posted By: Brian
Shouldn't the manager make those types of decisions? |
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Posted By: judson hamlin
I can't help but think that the Yankees are about ready for another edition of the Steve Kemp/Ken Phelps/Larry Milbourne years, so that whomever takes the Yankees job this year won't be around too long. I'd like to think that Mattingly is astute enough to bide his time and let the 2008 version of Stump/Bob Lemon take the heat. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Judd- I agree the Yanks may be headed into an era of decline. |
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Posted By: Scott L
Ha ha Brian I agree but we are talking about Steinbrenner's after all! |
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Posted By: Denny Walsh
Torre, |
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