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Posted By: Bryan Long
Just want to take a short poll. I also don't want to create a PSA bashing thread here, so please don't take it that way. I am working on a SGC graded 1948 Bowman set and awhile back I purchased some high grade PSA 48 bowman cards. One of the PSA 7 cards came back from SGC as trimmed - I don't have a scan yet but will post one once I can. I am curious as to just how often does this occur with everyone here? It is talked about a ton - I know, but how often does it happen? Has anyone sent something graded by SGC to crossover to PSA and had the card come back as trimmed? |
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Posted By: Shawn Chambers
Did you break them out and submit...or submit them in their PSA slabs? |
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Posted By: JK
Brian, |
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Posted By: Bryan Long
I sent all the cards in still encased in their PSA slabs. |
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Posted By: Larry
"I sent all the cards in still encased in their PSA slabs." |
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Posted By: JK
" The grading companies are very spiteful when it comes to crossovers and competition" |
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Posted By: Eric Brehm
Competition aside, I'm sure the grading companies are much more conservative with crossovers than they are with raw cards, since a card is considerably more difficult to examine when inside a holder (especially the edges). In other words, if they crack a card out of its holder, thinking based on initial inspection that they can meet your minimum grade, but then on closer inspection decide that they can't meet that grade (or even validate the card's authenticity), the grading company is stuck. They don't want that to happen, so they probably err on the safe side. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
I agree with Larry and Josh. SGC and PSA are cool with crossovers of each others' cards; I find that PSA rejects an inordinate amount of GAI cards. |
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Posted By: Glyn Parson
"oops, that explains it. The grading companies are very spiteful when it comes to crossovers and competition. " |
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Posted By: Bryan Long
I have always liked SGC. I was only curious as to how often this may occur with board members. SGC has been nothing but wonderful to me so I have no complaints. I will wait until I get the card back to see if I can find what they found. |
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Posted By: Chris
Bryan, I had this happen with a BVG 7, Psa 5 and a Gai Nm+. I now crack and submit. It may be as simple as the holder makes it difficult to judge the size of the card. After cracking each card mentioned above and resubmitting they each returned in a Sgc holder. |
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Posted By: Richard Cline - RC
Glyn - That is exactly what came to mind as I read some of the earlier posts. It simply doesn't make business sense to not holder a card that has previously been graded by a competitor, unless of course it doesn't meet minimum specifications. |
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Posted By: Bryan Long
Chris, |
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Posted By: Chris
Bryan, I did submit the three cards. I think it's a question of being able to measure a card that is in a holder or being able to look at a cards edges with the plastic holders ability to destort the cards image. I can see Sgc's point if that is the case. They are first class all the way and I believe they would rather not crack a card that is questionable then to crack it out , find out for sure it's trimmed and completely devalue their customers card. IMO |
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