Rollins- lots of hot air

[oldjudge]

As in any group in society, there are some good people and there are some jerks--nuf ced. As a Yankee fan I would like to congratulate the Phillies' fans on a great season. The series could have gone either way and I'm just happy we came out ahead.

[ibuysportsephemera]

As a life long Met fan, I have always maintained that I have no problem with the Yankees, just the obnoxious Yankees fans (and I am not lumping all Yankee fans into this category). Asshat Bruce proves this with his post. Congrats to the Yankees!

[ullmandds]

It looks like Bruce has a new nickname...I think this one will stick like "who's your daddy" did on Pedro!!!!!!!!

I'm guessing Bruce is the most influential person to set foot on net 54!

[wolfdogg]

Loving every minute of it as a life-long Yankee fan BUT I don't see Rollins as over-rated. He is a great player. Actually, I was kinda worried about this series. The Phillies have a great team and it wouldn't surprise me a bit to see them in The Big Show again.....soon

[D. Bergin]

Phillies have a solid core of young talented players. If they can hold on to these guys and get a reliable pitching staff in place they will be contending for a long time.

[J.McMurry]

If the Phils would have had better pitching they might have made it at least a 7 game series,but they were certainly the best team the National league had to put up against the Yanks this year.

some on here have said that they dont care for the modern game of baseball,but they love collecting pre-war BB cards. I'm like that in the fact that I dislike the modern day Yankees (except Jeter), but I love anything "historical" * Yankees and NYC. go figure.


* "historical" = pre 1970

[sportscardtheory]

Ever wonder why people hate Yankees fans so much? This douchey thread shows why.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

As in any group in society, there are some good people and there are some jerks--nuf ced. As a Yankee fan I would like to congratulate the Phillies' fans on a great season. The series could have gone either way and I'm just happy we came out ahead.

I love it when the two teams who are clearly the best, get to the World Series. It doesn't always happen. (See: 2008)

The most amazing thing to me this year was the job that the Phillies did in piecing it together. They made to game 6 of the World Series yet the starting pitcher in 4 of the 6 Series games was not on the Phillies roster until mid to late July! How did they get through the first 4 months of the season?

Truly, an incredible job by a well run organization.

(And... I love Jimmy Rollins. He is tough as can be and a true entertainer, both on and off the field. If I didn't think Jeter was going to play another 10-12 years...)

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

As in any group in society, there are some good people and there are some jerks--nuf ced. As a Yankee fan I would like to congratulate the Phillies' fans on a great season. The series could have gone either way and I'm just happy we came out ahead.

*

As a fan that had the privilege of watching Keller, DiMag and Henrich patrol the outfield, at the old ball orchard in Da Bronx ..... I agree with everything ced by the guy from Da Bronx.

I salute the formidable Philly team, and their fans.
It could've gone either way.
It wouldn't surprise me if we have a rematch.

As for the author of this thread.
Some people love being wrong ... but this guy loves being wrong LOUD!

[calvindog]

Guys, your proposal would make total sense if in fact all of the teams' owners actually wanted to win more than make money.

[barrysloate]

Doesn't winning make money for a team? What's the downside?

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Doesn't winning make money for a team? What's the downside?

It's a very complicated answer. Much depends upon your definition of "making money."

Steinbrenner bought the team in 1973 for $10 million. Estimates are that they are currently worth a little over $1 billion, so that's pretty good money. But, many years, they are cash flow negative. That possibility scares the bejesus out of some owners.

It seems to me that you can make money by winning, and you can make money by losing big and collecting the most money from revenue sharing and luxury taxes, but somewhere in the middle is a dead zone where you don't win enough to profit but don't suck enough to collect big dollars.

This "sea of mediocrity" is where you get killed. (I've heard that term somewhere before...)

But trying to win has it's risks. Spending money alone does not guarantee winning. So if your fans tolerate losing, that's the safer course.


Edited to add: The other thing to consider is that every year, only a couple of teams win enough to be successful, but lots of teams can stink it up.

[barrysloate]

If somebody buys a baseball team with no intention of putting together the best possible ball club, they should kick his sorry butt out of the league.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

If somebody buys a baseball team with no intention of putting together the best possible ball club, they should kick his sorry butt out of the league.

I agree, but there are about 20 of those guys in MLB right now.

[dstudeba]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

If somebody buys a baseball team with no intention of putting together the best possible ball club, they should kick his sorry butt out of the league.

I don't think there is a single owner out there who doesn't try to put together the best possible club within their financial constraints.