A case for the timeline of the T213-1 (COUPON) set

[toppcat]

Ted-missed #16 the last time around, looks like you answered my first question quite succinctly-thanks! Gotta think about the blue captions some more but your idea makes sense. I wonder if they no longer had access to whatever they needed for the brown captions in the production process?

[FrankWakefield]

First, I think brown captions on both T206s, T213-1s, and T215-1s are part of the regular printing process, when the frame is printed.

The font for the blue captions on the later T213s and T215s are of a different font. And the blue looks less intense, a bit washed out. Yet the artwork is the same as the successors. I do not think the blue captions were part of the regular blue process. I think the sheets went through a 'captions only' run. I've only been thinking this for a few days, I'd not contemplated it before Ted commenced this thread.

I think that 'adding' captions to the regular blue cycle would have been quite difficult. Removing the brown caption from the brown cycle not that difficult. So I think an extra printing pass for captions only would have been the most practicable way to deal with it.

So I envision a request being made for more cards, the expense discussed, then a fall back to just using the old images and reworking captions as a cost savings for these second quality cigarettes.

[tedzan]

I have amended in my initial post here, regarding the date of the printing of the A-B-C-D cards from April 1910 > June 1910.
I realized that my initial recollection was mistaken when I dug up my records.

However, my story stays the same, and the timeline for the printing of the T213-1 COUPON cards has shifted to June 1910.

Sorry about this, the 20" of snow and a recent layer of ice here in Pennsy must be affecting me


TED Z

[tedzan]

150/350 series Southern Leaguers (16 cards)

Bay................Nashville Volunteers
Bernhard.........Nashville Volunteers
Breitenstein.....New Orleans Pelicans
Carey.............Memphis Turtles
Cranston.........Memphis Turtles
Ellam..............Nashville Volunteers
Fritz...............New Orleans Pelicans
Greminger........Montgomery Climbers
Hickman..........Mobile Sea Gulls
Jordan............Atlanta Crackers
Molesworth......Birmingham Barons
Perdue............Nashville Volunteers
Persons...........Montgomery Climbers
Reagan............New Orleans Pelicans
Smith..............Atlanta Crackers
Thornton.........Mobile Sea Gulls


350-ONLY series Southern Leaguers (4 cards)

Hart................Montgomery Climbers
Hart................Little Rock Travelers
Lentz..............Little Rock Travelers
Rockenfeld.......New Orleans Pelicans


Some interesting tid-bits here......

Ted Breitenstein, in his 1st official Major League start, pitched a No-Hitter on Oct 4th 1891 with St Louis (American Association).
It was a near perfect game, since he faced only 27 batters. He allowed one Walk, which was erased by a Pick-Off play.

Then, approx. 8 years later (Aug 15th 1909) with the Pelicans, Ted pitched another No-Hitter (vs Montgomery).

The following year, the New Orleans Pelicans win the 1910 Southern Association pennant. Shoeless Joe Jackson batted .354......
which greatly contributed to the Pelicans Championship year.






TED Z