OT: "Catching Hell" 30 for 30

[ScottR81]

After watching it, I kind of hate him even more now and Ill tell you why.

If he would just use what happened to make money off of it and put it in peoples faces to say, you stupid people just made me rich because you blame me? people would see what they created and let it go.

By him not talking and writing books or interviews, he remains a ghost.

A ghost with a label the fans have branded him with as The guy who started the turn of events. It was after that moment people started using him as the scapegoat, and why not? He's a ghost.

[martyogelvie]

Great Show! They spent the first 15/20 minutes on Buckner, drawing parallels between the two. Everyone on the show was sympathetic towards Bartman except for maybe one. IMO, the documentary pointed the blame squarely on the media to which they did not deny. Great show unless your a Cubs because it has to bring back some bad memories.

[chaddurbin]

alou and aramis booking plane tix back to the DR even before game 7 started...classic! yea let's blame the guy trying to catch a foul ball instead.

[Vol]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

alou and aramis booking plane tix back to the DR even before game 7 started...classic! yea let's blame the guy trying to catch a foul ball instead.

+1

[ChiefBenderForever]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

alou and aramis booking plane tix back to the DR even before game 7 started...classic! yea let's blame the guy trying to catch a foul ball instead.

No way, how can you blame the players, mgmt, or organization ? Plain and simple it is all Bartmans fault along with all the other Cub fans.

[packs]

Hoping this replays tonight.


Bucky Dent is sort of the anti-Bartman. Everyone knows Reggie Jackson won that game against the Red Sox but no one seems to care.

[Cerberus]

The show is scheduled to be re-broadcast tonight, on ESPN2,
at 11:00 p.m., EST.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by Cerberus

The show is scheduled to be re-broadcast tonight, on ESPN2,
at 11:00 p.m., EST.

Thanks for the heads up on that.

As for Bartman, recalling watching the game on TV and seeing the replay ad nauseum for days and days after the debacle, it’s clear he deflected the ball before Alou could make the catch. Whether Alou could have made the catch had Bartman not touched the ball is debatable. I will say however in my 45 years of watching MLB games, I’ve seen countless times where savvier fans on front rows of the stands deliberately make space for their hometown players on similar types of plays.

However, to put the blame on Bartman for what occurred during the rest of that inning is absurd. The Marlins went on to score 8 runs that inning with the Cub’s Alex Gonzalez flubbing one the easiest ground outs and possibly a double play. In addition Sosa missed the cut-off man forcing the Cubs to intentionally walk a batter, and Prior admitted hanging a curve ball on a key hit and one could go on and on.

If Bartman did anything, he inadvertently triggered the most catastrophic display of absence of mettle in a group of professional baseball players. In short, the Cubs from that point on allowed themselves to self destruct and beat themselves and have no one else to blame but themselves for being so mentally and emotionally fragile.