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Well what I have found is the variations in the set are nearly void of any backs like pied 42, AB, BL, and Cycles. I would love to see this card. The price is good if the grade/condition warrants it, but pied 42's command little premium if none at all still. It's just a matter of time just like the AB's are starting to fetch a bit more regularly, and cycles with certain players. More collectors means less cards. Less cards drive up prices and especially with the less common backs.
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The grade is a PSA 2. So I was willing to go a little higher but $235 was a little too high for now. If it was a Cycle back I would have paid that. I like the various rare backs but not as much keen on the factory number. I was close with the deal but not quite there, I would say $200 would have been more suiteable |
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Andrew, I don't own this one anymore, but here is a Collins Piedmont 42.
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Did that sell for about $86 on ebay some months ago? I found some old google records of one that looked exactly like that, that sold for that amount on ebay.
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One was sold earlier this year on N54, though I'm not sure of its price. Almost, if not all the T205's in the recent North Carolina find sale were P42s. I ended up with 4.. thanks again Trae!
http://www.collectorfocus.com/collection/ncfind/sold |
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It's possible, although I sold it on the b/s/t earlier this year.
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Where were those other 2 sold at?
This could possibly mean this card will also be found with an AB back. Cycle, Drum and Broadleaf's are "Seeming" to not be possible if I am right about some research I have been mapping out. I would stop eating for a month to be able to bid on that ![]() |
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I bought it from another member I actually have a pic on my computer. There was also a raw one sold on ebay a short time ago for 260, but the one I got is way better here is a pic.
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dammit it did not post! I guess I will have to wait for the delivery I just hope it does not go back to the seller because it was sent to the wrong address
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I finally got it in the mail today here it is I tried to take the best pic I could of the Pied 42 on the back the best I could. It looks like it got a 2 because of the very light paperloss on the back
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((((Well what I have found is the variations in the set are nearly void of any backs like pied 42))))
From my tracking of Peidmont 42s I have found the following variations come with Pied 42 backs. Barger - Partial B Collins - Open mouth Ford - White cap Wiltse - Right ear Their are also ones on back variations Hoblitzell - name incorrect - no Cin Hoblitzell - name correct - no Cin Moran - stray line of type Wallace - no cap - 2 lines of 1910 stats Hope this info helps. I have scans of some if needed. Last edited by nebboy; 12-09-2011 at 08:29 AM. |
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Wiltse and ford are new also for me. I had looked at a lot of hobby's and wallaces, and morans and have never seen the 42's on any of them. I owned a barger partial B 42. post scans if you have any variations with pied 42 wether it be front variations or backs. I am interested in seeing what's out there
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Could it be that Pied 42 did not start making cards til the end of the 1911 season?
I have briefly discussed with someone before wether or not T205's were even printed in 1911 and not done in 1912-13 time frame with the T-80 cards. We know the 206's stretch into 1911-12 so wouldnt it make sense to finish one run completely before setting up another? I would really step out and boldly say the minor league cards were some of the last printed since they match the t80 style very closely. This is JMO |
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Wanted to up date my bucket before posting. I just started saving scans of back so that they can be verified when updating a master list. Hope this info helps.
http://s648.photobucket.com/albums/u...%2042%20backs/ And I only have the correct Hoblitsell scan in bucket sorry and its a bad one at that. My records show both - but would like to hear more, so I can get my records right. Last edited by nebboy; 12-09-2011 at 01:15 PM. |
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Hi John,
Nice group of T205's. From the scan provided, the Stray Line appears to be a Piedmont 25, not a 42. Furthermore, I'm almost positive that a Hoblitzell Name Incorrect, No Cin. cannot be found with a Piedmont 42 back. This card is only exists with a Sweet Caporal Red back. Just looked through my T205's for Piedmont 42's. Only had two others out of about 300 examples: Ford (White Cap) and Chance. Last edited by asoriano; 12-09-2011 at 02:12 PM. |
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Thanks for the info regarding Piedmont 42's. Any chance you have a scan of the Hoblitzell Name Incorrect, No Cin. w/ a Piedmont 42 back? I was always under the impression that the Name Incorrect, No Cin. only existed with a Sweet Caporal Red reverse. My Collins example: ![]() ![]() Regards, Turner Engle Last edited by asoriano; 12-09-2011 at 12:52 PM. |
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