Hey, pennant guys

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

I saw this, unbelievably, hanging in a restaurant the other day. Just hanging over a booth. I'd love to go back and try to buy it. The waitress said someone just gave it to the owner. Does anyone know what it might be worth? Pretty sure it's from 1935, but I've never seen one like it anywhere. Thanks for any help!

What about the other pennants there? What were they?

[UKCardGuy]

That's an amazing Tigers pennant. What a find.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Yes, 1935, and this could anywhere between $1000-$1800 in my opinion in auction. Mark, what do you think?

That's a pretty wide range. I would think it falls in there, but significantly closer to the top of that range. Rarity, condition, great design and a championship year... this one has it all. Perhaps $1,500 - $1,800. Higher, if sold at auction and multiple people are gunning for it.

Apologies to anyone here who may have already made a lowball offer to the owner!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Can I get the name of that restaurant?

Greg’s already googling “nautical theme restaurant detroit.”

[SAllen2556]

Thanks for the info gentlemen. It's actually in a Northern Michigan bar on an undisclosed lake. I shall be back this weekend to attempt to buy the thing. I'll at least hopefully get them to put it somewhere safe and get it in some plastic.

[gonefishin]

Good luck obtaining the pennant!

I just acquired a collection of autographed Negro League items, and this pennant was included. I don't know a thing about pennants, but saw a similar one on ebay. Hoping one you experts could provide a little information on the pennant, era, etc. Thanks in advance.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Greg’s already googling “nautical theme restaurant detroit.”

If it was a similarly desirable Giants pennant, you’d already be IN Detroit … 😄

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

If it was a similarly desirable Giants pennant, you’d already be IN Detroit … 😄

Nah, I’m cheap. Ask bocca.

[bocca001]

Rob- I told you that other people said you were cheap. I never said it. What I really thing is.... : )

Here is a pennant that just arrived for me today. It's 3/4 size. Not the fanciest thing, but the only other time I have seen it for sale was from the estate of an original Oiler player. It's likely from their very early years. That copy also has the same spine/tassel system (a single excessively long spine that extends well beyond the pennant). I suppose they could have both come from a string, but it may have just been a cheap and economical way to have something tassel like. It's also just a single line of stitching.

I also can't help but notice that the ping pong table I use for pictures (it is good at not giving much reflection in photos) is starting to get really beat up from my teens playing. I may need to find a new picture taking location.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I also can't help but notice that the ping pong table I use for pictures (it is good at not giving much reflection in photos) is starting to get really beat up from my teens playing. I may need to find a new picture taking location.

It beats a white table or a strap chair!

[Domer05]

Thank you Marc for making this beauty available to me

Always loved the look of these vertical pennant/burgees by Trench, ca. 1967. Such an interesting look. I only wish they made them in a full size--this one's not even a foot long!

[bocca001]

Sounds like a good pennant factory project. What would a full size look like?

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Sounds like a good pennant factory project. What would a full size look like?

Challenge accepted. I've actually been wanting to make a similar looking design, based not on this Trench/NFL series; but, upon a series of vertical pennant/burgees manufactured by ASCO during the mid-1960s.

Unlike the Trench ones, ASCO's were full-size. They also featured individual portraits of select players--all of whom were Minnesota Twins. See below.

I was thinking maybe a '65 Sandy Koufax CY Young Winner version might look pretty sweet?

What do you think Rick?

[bocca001]

I'm not sure I've ever seen the ASCO full size. I do like those better, especially with the fish tail cut.

If you make Koufax for the Cy Young, you also need to make Mays for the MVP.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I'm not sure I've ever seen the ASCO full size. I do like those better, especially with the fish tail cut.

If you make Koufax for the Cy Young, you also need to make Mays for the MVP.

Good point, bocca! And, I’m OK with Koufax but no current d**gers!

[rlevy]

Two thumbs up from me Kyle. Please make an extra, I'm already creating a spot for it

Rick

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by gonefishin

Good luck obtaining the pennant!

I just acquired a collection of autographed Negro League items, and this pennant was included. I don't know a thing about pennants, but saw a similar one on ebay. Hoping one you experts could provide a little information on the pennant, era, etc. Thanks in advance.

Thought I’d bump this. I can’t help (although the design is obviously familiar) but know some of you guys can.

[Fballguy]

Recent sales at Clean Sweep range from $400-$800. The problem with these negro league pennants for me is the prevalence of pretty decent reproductions which sell in the $20-$30 range. I'm sure plenty of people have bought a repro thinking they're legit. The one in question is obviously legit.

[effe]

Just picked this one up. Not that old but my quick search didn't turn up another one. Likely dates to 1977 as it came with this membership card.

[ooo-ribay]

Picked this up for a whooping $27. I didn't even know they made this style in full size. Bocca surmises these were a later issue, maybe for the 1951 or '54 NL pennants? Anyway, the color is great. For whatever reason, my cameras don't like to photograph orange.

[perezfan]

Great pickup Rob… 1951 I believe. Love the orange felt.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Great pickup Rob… 1951 I believe. Love the orange felt.

Thanks. It looks better in person. I think those light spots are a camera issue or sun spots.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Thanks. It looks better in person. I think those light spots are a camera issue or sun spots.

Or….

Unless the pennant lies perfectly flat, the light will illuminate the undulations differently. It kind of depends upon the angle at which the light is hitting the felt.

[thetahat]

I concur on 1951. Full-size 1950 Phillies here:

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

I concur on 1951. Full-size 1950 Phillies here:

Good to know. Thanks to the experts!

[Fballguy]

Ouch...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/19640575173...mis&media=COPY

[rlevy]

Rob, I thought the only versions of this Jackie Robinson at-bat pennant said either first baseman or second baseman on it under his name. This has neither, and the lettering for Jackie Robinson is also different than the other 2. It's also missing the flag at the end. Anyone ever seen this third version before?

Rick

[thetahat]

The Jackie pennant is different in multiple ways. Found a similar version online and compared to mine at bottom. Facial features much more crude and cap is different.

[Domer05]

Wow, never realized there was this alternative, position-less, sans-flag variant. Must be from 1948 or after? You'd think this version would be more common than the '47, given that it could be sold up until his retirement in 1957....

And the graphics are indeed less sharp when compared against the more common '47 version. Good catch there.

Nothing gets passed this group, does it?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Ouch...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/19640575173...mis&media=COPY

I thought your ouch was gonna be the repro Baltimore Elite Giants pennant that someone is asking $690 for…

[aelefson]

I bought the pennant pictured below at the Brimfield antique show last week. I saw the regular version of the Keezer pennant earlier in this thread. I like the homemade additions to mine. Mine is made of soft felt. Are others from this Keezer series made out of similar material? I am sure it was discussed on this thread but I missed it.

Alan

[bocca001]

Cool Royals pennant. I like that somebody cherished it.

My Giants from this series is also soft felt.

[Fballguy]

Speaking of Keezer...It's been quite the dry spell lately but extremely excited that this one found me.

[Domer05]

Oh wow, that's a good one, Rob. Great artwork.

Full size or 3/4?

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Oh wow, that's a good one, Rob. Great artwork.

Full size or 3/4?

29" Long. Soft felt. Keezer stamp on the back.

Now to find others...

[aelefson]

Thank you Marc! Rob, that looks really cool.

Alan

[erikc21]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Speaking of Keezer...It's been quite the dry spell lately but extremely excited that this one found me.

That’s an awesome get, Rob! Great find!

[erikc21]

Hey all -

A friend of mine who collects twins stuff asked me if I knew who got these on eBay. I said I’d ask around. If you did and/or are interested in trading or selling please shoot me a message.

Thanks!

[wpeters]

Does anyone know the year this pennant was sold? I'm guessing it was right after the move from Milwaukee. Thanks.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by wpeters

Does anyone know the year this pennant was sold? I'm guessing it was right after the move from Milwaukee. Thanks.

Definitely early in their Atlanta tenure...1966ish give or take a year.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by aelefson

I bought the pennant pictured below at the Brimfield antique show last week. I saw the regular version of the Keezer pennant earlier in this thread. I like the homemade additions to mine. Mine is made of soft felt. Are others from this Keezer series made out of similar material? I am sure it was discussed on this thread but I missed it.

Alan

Looks like Sharpie, but they did a great job! 👍

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Definitely early in their Atlanta tenure...1966ish give or take a year.

Well, you can possibly "take" a year, but cannot "give" one, as the Braves played in Milwaukee the year prior (1965). I would go with 1966 as well... possibly bleeding into '67 if there was some leftover inventory.

As for the Patriots and White Twins pennants posted above.... first time I have seen either example... both spectacular. Especially the Patriots, with that super detailed artwork. One of Keezer's best ever!

[UKCardGuy]

Love the White Twins pennant. It's pretty amazing how many new pennants come up...there's so much variety. Gotta love it.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by erikc21

Hey all -

A friend of mine who collects twins stuff asked me if I knew who got these on eBay. I said I’d ask around. If you did and/or are interested in trading or selling please shoot me a message.

Thanks!

Wow, very cool. The Individual Portrait Pennant is by ASCO.

The '65 AL champs pennant is by WGN, and I've never seen it before.
Interesting thing: WGN made a few AL and NL champ pennants for certain pennant winning teams throughout the 1960s ... but they never made (to my knowledge) a companion pennant for the '65 Dodgers, who of course played these Twins as the NL champs that same year.

I don't believe WGN made an NL champs pennant for the '62 Giants or the '63 Dodgers either.

[bocca001]

Thanks to Fball guy for snagging this for me. It's been on my wantlist for some time, with Oooribay's being the only other I had ever seen. It's full size. Something about the picture, now that I look at it, makes it look smaller.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Well, you can possibly "take" a year, but cannot "give" one, as the Braves played in Milwaukee the year prior (1965). I would go with 1966 as well... possibly bleeding into '67 if there was some leftover inventory.

As for the Patriots and White Twins pennants posted above.... first time I have seen either example... both spectacular. Especially the Patriots, with that super detailed artwork. One of Keezer's best ever!

But didn't the Braves try to get there in 1965, but were blocked by the city of Milwaukee? Thinking if they were originlly targeting 1965, they might've wanted to have some swag ready.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Thanks to Fball guy for snagging this for me. It's been on my wantlist for some time, with Oooribay's being the only other I had ever seen. It's full size. Something about the picture, now that I look at it, makes it look smaller.

Must be the fat tassels...and/or maybe a slightly wider spine?

[chas]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

Thanks for the info gentlemen. It's actually in a Northern Michigan bar on an undisclosed lake. I shall be back this weekend to attempt to buy the thing. I'll at least hopefully get them to put it somewhere safe and get it in some plastic.

This and two other pennants are in Mike's on the Water in St. Clair Shores MI. I tried to buy them but to no avail.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

But didn't the Braves try to get there in 1965, but were blocked by the city of Milwaukee? Thinking if they were originlly targeting 1965, they might've wanted to have some swag ready.

Hmmm... can't rule it out, I guess!

[Domer05]

Thank you Greg for helping me acquire this Milwaukee Braves pennant to complete my set of ca. 1959 Keezer minis....